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I am new here, but I have read some of your discussions and I see that there is a glimmer of hope for me, for I cannot remember where I have seen information on this particular matter.

To rephrase: I would like to make a dragon that is an offspring of different coloured/typed dragons; say, one is chromatic and the other is metallic, or both are different chromatic kinds. I already know that I can apply a half-dragon template to a dragon. That is not what I am looking for. A few years ago I have seen some published (electronically or in paper, not sure) source that contained information that I require. It might have been an unofficial .pdf (open licensed d20), or some sort of compendium with creatures and templates, but I remember it specifically addressed the issue and it even had a "fancy" name for such creatures.

Can anyone, please, drop me a hint? Pretty please!

[looks innocent as a baby kobold hugging a golden pony]

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  • Mindwin – thanks, done it! @KRyan – It is written in my question that I am not looking for a half-dragon applied to a dragon. It also says that I am looking for a source on the topic, that covers it in full and that I cannot find it. It is not a matter of preferrence, it is a matter of finding the source, the rules, and the name for such creatures :) – Lazurite Dec 05 '17 at 16:15
  • And as for the approach I don't like it because it does not do justice to both parents. They are basically one kind of dragon with some useless stuff from the other type. The approach I am looking for was quite profound and had a good story to it. – Lazurite Dec 05 '17 at 16:24
  • Related: https://rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/13584/rules-for-hybrid-dragons-mixed-colors – A_S00 Dec 05 '17 at 19:09

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Might have been The Slayer's Guide To Dragons (3.0, Mongoose Publishing, authored by one G. Gygax who also wrote a few things for TSR ;-) It had rules for dragon-dragon hybrids; I think it covered all the chromatic-chromatic combinations but I don't recall whether it included metal/metal or metal/chromatic.

If it jogs your memory, I remember it had russet dragons (red-green hybrid) and pink (red-white). As well as the hybrids, it also had a suggestion for albino red dragons as a way to mess with players.

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The official way to accomplish this is to use the half-dragon template on a dragon. So a half-green red dragon would be born of parents that were a green dragon and a red dragon. I am reasonably certain there is no official alternative to this approach.

I cannot claim to know what unofficial options exist for this.

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  • Not a complete answer, since I don’t know where to find what is being sought, but this does at least give people information on where this isn’t. – KRyan Dec 05 '17 at 16:17
  • I think what you are talking about is Creatures That Cannot Be II [ http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/eo/20070401a ] – Lazurite Dec 05 '17 at 17:06
  • @Lazurite I mean, I am talking about any dragons anywhere, and the Monster Manual half-dragon template. Don’t need a web article to confirm that it works (and Races of the Dragon doesn’t get to change a Monster Manual template). – KRyan Dec 05 '17 at 17:08
  • Actually, it does. RotD says that you cannot add a half-dragon template to a dragon (p. 72). The article appeals to some higher authority, which allows it, though. – Lazurite Dec 05 '17 at 17:26
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    @Lazurite That is my point: no matter what Races of the Dragon says on the subject, it lacks the authority to make that change. The errata rules are clear on this point. – KRyan Dec 05 '17 at 17:27
  • RotD lacks the authority? Yeah, I would think so too :) – Lazurite Dec 05 '17 at 17:28
  • @Lazurite Actually, KRyan is correct on this point. According to the policy established by WotC a supplement is not permitted to be considered errata, and when there is a conflict between a primary source and a secondary source, then the primary source always wins; and thus RotD does not have the "authority" to change the content of a primary source (MM1) as a primary source always overrides a secondary supplement. A policy with WotC has ignored with some frequently, sadly. But still technically correct. So RotD basically wasted ink printing what it did. – nijineko Dec 06 '17 at 03:19
  • @nijineko Actually, I have alreagy agreed with KRyan, but thanks for the additional piece of information :) It's always appreciated :) EDIT: Would you mind giving the source to that policy? (I do think I might need that :D) – Lazurite Dec 06 '17 at 08:57
  • @Lazurite Rules Compendium, page 5. I do believe that there is also a previous statement regarding the primacy of the Core 3 over other sources, but I don't recall where that was written off the top of my head. – nijineko Dec 06 '17 at 13:08
  • @Lazurite Also the beginning of every (? most, anyway) errata document explains how to handle contradictions between source books. It’s quite specific that the “primary source” wins out. Monster Manual is the primary source for the half-dragon template. – KRyan Dec 06 '17 at 13:21