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What evidence suggests that the authors of the four canonical gospels of the Western tradition considered their own gospel to agree with the others?

Luke explicitly says that his version was the right version:

Luke 1:1-4 NASB95

1 Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compile an account of the things accomplished among us, 2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and servants of the word, 3 it seemed fitting for me as well, having investigated everything carefully from the beginning, to write [it] out for you in consecutive order, most excellent Theophilus; 4 so that you may know the exact truth about the things you have been taught.

John, also, suggests that he has Jesus' "lover" ("Lazarus") as a source, which is the right source for actual, factual Jesus news.

John "remembers" Jesus' earthly ministry as being three years. All of the Synoptics shave that back to a single year.

Is the proposition of the NT authors that their gospel was the gospel, and all others (even canonical posers) were fakes? Or do we see them supporting their "opponents"?

agarza
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Ruminator
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  • bible apps like theword.net have presets for such html markings (super script etc) which we can fill to automate the bible quote pasting. As for the Question, you are just assuming that Luke is somehow being a rival to Mark, Matthew etc and claiming he alone is true, whereas that's not true. His words just mean that he is trying to present reliable narrative as opposed to various oral or written stories. These are personal narratives by authors, even if the authors opposed each others, it doesn't matter. Doesn't seem so. – Michael16 Nov 01 '23 at 11:48
  • Of course! If only I could read minds and not just words! – Ruminator Nov 01 '23 at 12:40

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Your question is difficult to answer due to the way it's worded.

First, what does "Western Tradition" mean? The Latin side of the church (Carthage, Rome, Gaul, etc.) held to the same Tetraeuangelion as the Greek and Syriac church did.

Second, When Luke mentions that there were others before him who "stacked up an orderly account" (“ἀνατάξασθαι διήγησιν” (Λουκᾶν 1·1 THGNT-T)), he is not speaking about his fellow gospel authors. He's just mentioning the fact that there were other accounts that people had written down. His account was different than these early (non-canonical) accounts, however, for two reasons:

  1. He made use of direct witnesses and servants of the word (“αὐτόπται καὶ ὑπηρέται” (Λουκᾶν 1·2 THGNT-T))
  2. His account was recorded "accurately and orderly" (“ἀκριβῶς καθεξῆς σοι γράψαι” (Λουκᾶν 1·3 THGNT-T))

He is definitely and obviously not speaking about John's gospel, since John hadn't written it yet.

Third, There's absolutely no evidence from you that the synoptic gospel writers have a different reckoning of time for Jesus' ministry than John's gospel. The sheer fact that the synoptic gospels record events both from Jesus' early ministry and from Holy Week dispels your statement.

Finally, when speaking of evidence of a canon, we can look in (at least) two directions:

Manuscripts: The manuscripts handed down to us all contain all four gospels without a hint of any ordering one in priority before another. Examples:

  • In the West, one of the earliest manuscripts of the Tetraeuangelion is Codex Vercelli. It contains all four gospels recorded in order of length. So it's recorded and bound in this order: 1) Matthew; 2) John; 3) Luke; 4) Mark.

  • In the Greek-speaking areas, take, for example, The Chester-Beatty Papyrus (P45-P46); contains all four gospels.

  • In the Syriac-speaking areas, take, for example the Curetonian Syriac. It contains all four gospels of the Tetraeuangelion.

Furthermore, not only do they contain the four gospel collection (Tetraeuangelion); they also add this preface to them all:

  • ⲉⲩⲁⲛⲅⲅⲉⲗⲓⲟⲛⲕⲁⲧⲁ...
  • Euangelium Secundum ...
  • ”ܕܐܘܢܓܠܝܘܢ ܕܡ̈ܦܪܫܐ ܡܬܝ“ (Matthew 1:0 SYRIAC-C)

The gospel "according to [gospel writer]." Notice, that there is nowhere recorded in any manuscript any hint that any of the gospel writers was more or less in importance than the others. Also, note that never, in any manuscript, do we have the superscript, "Luke's gospel." The possessive is never added. The gospels do not come from Matthew, Mark, Luke, John. And they do not belong to them. They belong to Jesus. Instead, they are the gospels "in line with" or "according to."

Church Fathers: One of the patterns we find very early in the church is the Church receiving and treating the Tetraeuangelion as a unit/collection of four equally-weighted gospels is how the early church fathers speak of them. As early as the time of Irenaeus (130–202), the Fathers begin to speak of the four gospel writers in terms of four beasts.. But how they speak of them is the important issue. They do so as an answer to the question, "why four gospels?" In their answers all four are canonical.

As a summary, when you assert claims like you have here, you need to provide evidence. Also, it would be wise to break down your questions into separate questions. Examples:

  • Does Luke explicitly say his gospel was the right/only one?
  • Was Lazarus a source for the gospel according to John?
  • Do the gospel writers have a discrepancy in the years recorded?
  • Did any of the gospel writers assert that 'their' gospel was before or after (in priority) the other gospel writers?

If you don't, at the very least, your question becomes an incoherent mess. But, more likely, your question will either not be answered at all, or be shredded due to how it is framed (it seems to be driving an agenda rather than asking for knowledge).

Recommendation: If you are at all interested in learning more about the NT canon I suggest The Canon of the New Testament: Its Origin, Development, and Significance. It is very well-researched. And it would quickly clear up the muddiness of your questions.

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  • Western tradition refers to the prevailing religion of Rome, and the presumed champions of religion itself, by its adherents. For example, you as a westerner are probably unaware that the Orthodox (who are much older and with deeper roots than Roman religion) have a canon rooted in the Greek, rather than the Hebrew. In fact, the Romans were troubled when Jerome opted to translate the Hebrew rather than the Greek for his OT. You can't have two canons, so the Western Tradition and the Orthodox don't usually share beers together. The Ethiopic tradition and canon are much older as well. – Ruminator Nov 01 '23 at 12:48
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    @Ruminator Can you stay on target for just one moment? In your question you were speaking about the NT canon. With the mention of Hebrew, evidently, you are now, out of nowhere, lurching toward the OT canon. I was endeavoring to answer your initial question about the NT canon. It's very difficult to answer your questions when there's very little internal cohesion in your expression of thoughts. – Epimanes Nov 01 '23 at 14:57
  • I'm trying to show you that there are multiple Christian canons, and that the one you consider to be flawless and divinely inspired is a canon that is only a few hundred years old and is of dubious provenance. – Ruminator Nov 01 '23 at 15:21
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    @Ruminator in my other post I recommended a very well researched book. I can only invite you to give it a read. If it costs too much, there's also interlibrary loan. But it would dispel the already deficient comments you have made already. In your last comment you make assertions, but yet offer up no evidence. How can anyone take you seriously when you can't settle in on either the OT or NT canon and you can't provide evidence and there's little cohesion in your expression of thought? – Epimanes Nov 01 '23 at 15:57
  • You: "In your last comment you make assertions, but yet offer up no evidence. How can anyone take you seriously..."

    Me: https://youtu.be/ter6pO3Of0w

    – Ruminator Nov 01 '23 at 16:08