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I've just noticed, Cthulhu (

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I want to write one of these myself, to algorithmically generate musical tracks that are sent to other instruments within my DAW. But I can't find any tutorials or examples of how to do this.

All the VST tutorials and examples I'm seeing seem to be of VSTs as instruments or effects.

Can anyone give me some pointers to where I can find out more about programming a VST that sends MIDI?

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One interesting possibility I've discovered is ReaJS which is a free VST plugin from Cockos that you can get as part of the free ReaPlugs VST suite : https://www.reaper.fm/reaplugs/

You seem to write scripts for the plugin in something called "js" (that doesn't seem anything to do with Javascript).

There's a manual here : https://www.reaper.fm/sdk/js/js.php

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    That looks interesting! Unfortunately I was unable to understand how to route MIDI in and out of this plugin in my DAW (Cubase) as it seems to be available only as an audio insert. So the audio manipulations works but how do I make MIDI manipulation work? Usually with other plugins it's regular VST instruments that just outputting MIDI so you can route the output MIDI to another instrument. Any help? – Shachar Har-Shuv Sep 20 '21 at 07:59
  • I'm afraid I don't know Cubase.

    Since I wrote that answer I've been exploring Protoplug which is a great Lua scriptable VST : https://www.osar.fr/protoplug/

    Here's a video tutorial I did of how to write a MIDI processing plugin (a simple arpeggiator) using it, which I run in FL Studio. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHo1FXyRvrA

    Unfortunately, each DAW seems to handle internal MIDI routing differently. I suspect it must be possible in Cubase, but you'd have to look somewhere else for instructions on that.

     – interstar Sep 21 '21 at 05:18
  • Thanks! At first site that looks like a better option considering that the programming language here looks more friendly to people who are used to scripting language like python or javascript. I hope I'll manage to route MIDI properly. – Shachar Har-Shuv Sep 21 '21 at 17:26
  • I upgraded my MacBook Pro to Big Sur and it was pretty much unusable. I ended up wiping the HD and installing AV MX Linux on MacBook Pro hardware. I ended up going with Reaper and I think it is one of the best DAWS. The only downside is that some of my plug-ins weren't compatible with Linux (Dune3), so I have to use my windows machine. – Stephen Ross Sep 04 '23 at 01:36
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While Cthulhu is great for comming up with new and creative patterns, you could very well just us the in-build chord tracks in Cubase (or the similar chorder in Studio One) for simple harmonies and circle of fifths stuff.

It's acctualy a time saver when working with fixed harmonies music - like those in folk or indie genres.

Tutorial video on this chord feature:

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I had some success writing a MIDI-generating VST plugin using the JUCE framework. Besides audio and MIDI support for standalones and VST & AU plugins, it also gives you a pretty good UI framework and the tutorials seem thorough.

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I've enjoyed using Midinous to send sequences to my DAW and modular eurorack synthesizer. The UI is enjoyable and feels like a game, but you can do a lot with it.

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    Yeah. You can send MIDI from external apps. I've done it from Sonic Pi. And I finally managed to get an old app of mine (http://gbloink.com) to send MIDI to the DAW using a 3rd party MIDI mapper. (See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7PD00jvCy0 for excruciating detail)

    However, what's more mysterious is how to do this from inside a VST format plugin.

    Or rather, AFAICT, it just isn't really part of the VST standard, so you have to hope that your DAW has a separate way to route MIDI internally that will engage any MIDI you send out of your plugin.

     – interstar Sep 06 '23 at 01:22
  • When I first started using Reaper on Linux, I had a really hard time routing Midi. Midinous solved that problem for me. I use it to sequence my external eurorack modular synth. – Stephen Ross Sep 06 '23 at 03:59
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I wrote, and released for free, a fully programmable VST plugin, that has also a programmable sequencer. It is called Crescendo and I published it on KVRAudio. My developer name is bjt2.

Hope this helps.

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