Shapes and letters. What is the missing box?

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_{Finally, someone has figured it out. Good job.}

Observation: so far there's only one A in the entire grid. Four C's, five B's, five D's. — Rand al'Thor, Apr 02 '19 at 15:32
It kind of looks like the choices are not right...the answer I come up with is close to #3 but not exactly... — Dr t, Apr 02 '19 at 19:57
I see the Illuminati on the 3rd square in the first row. The triangle with the circle eye in it! Maybe its a clue! — xilpex, Apr 02 '19 at 23:25
The choices are right and the puzzle makes sense. Should I give a hint? — Rudy Matunic, Apr 03 '19 at 01:24
Observation: the 15 in the grid do not have any duplicates, however, picking one of the four answers will create a duplicate — MetaZen, Apr 04 '19 at 18:10
This appears to me to be some kind of Mendel Square or Math Square. Notice that the shapes in the upper left and lower right corner are identical, as are the top right and lower left... — mkinson, Apr 10 '19 at 13:16
@RudyMatunic You may want to drop a hint before your bounty expires. It seems the community hasn't been able to make progress on this despite pretty decent visibility. — Rubio, Apr 10 '19 at 22:05
Im confident someone will figure out the answer. Im scared to give a hint that'll maybe give it away. Im sure someone will come up with something. Im not one to give hints anyway. Im more of a believer in giving it your all and doing something even if it's difficult. Im signing out now and hopefully someone will have figured it out when I wake up. Im a believer in this community! — Rudy Matunic, Apr 11 '19 at 04:24
Also I have a gut feeling that the answer has something to do with the intersection of the shapes... — Rapiddagger, Apr 13 '19 at 14:26
@RudyMatunic no problem! Awarding the bounty to the accepted answer now :) — Mr Pie, Apr 17 '19 at 14:10

Sven Pošta · Accepted Answer · 2019-04-14T15:50:58.290

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I believe the answer is

1

Reasoning:

I replaced letters with numbers (A=1, B=2, C=3 and D=4) as well edges in shapes with numbers (circle = 0, line = 1, triangle = 3 and square = 4). The sum of letters and the sum of the edges matches in each row. For example the first row: B+D+B+D=2+4+2+4=12 Square+Line+Triangle+Square=4+1+3+4=12 EDIT: It's also true for columns.

edited Apr 14 '19 at 15:50

answered Apr 14 '19 at 15:28

Sven Pošta

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Holy crap, this makes sense! Please elaborate and add additional context to this answer; i.e. show examples! Because this answer might just be it! Also, welcome to the Puzzling Stack Exchange (PSE)! Since you are a new contributor, and in fact new to the Stack Exchange, I strongly advise that you visit the Help Center and/or take the tour if you have not already. Otherwise, happy puzzling, my friend! I hope for more answers to come from you in the future, but most of all, hope you enjoy! :D – Mr Pie Apr 14 '19 at 15:39
Yes, I believe this answer is correct. Well done. – jsm Apr 14 '19 at 16:30
This looks like the right answer. Good job – Artemmm Apr 16 '19 at 02:26

Danne · Answer 2 · 2019-04-05T15:19:23.200

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In each row, number of distinct shapes (each figure has one shape) + number of distinct letters = 6. Only option 3 will fulfill this pattern on row 3.

edited Apr 05 '19 at 15:19

answered Apr 05 '19 at 12:06

Danne

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I think you've miscounted, or didn't express yourself fully. Using your method to count I don't get the same for each row. – Amorydai Apr 05 '19 at 15:10
Rephrased. Clearer? – Danne Apr 05 '19 at 15:19

score 6 · Answer 3 · answered Apr 05 '19 at 19:41

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Is it:

3

because:

A has 1 circle, B has 2 and D has 4, so C must have 3.

answered Apr 05 '19 at 19:41

JMP

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score 4 · Answer 4 · edited Apr 14 '19 at 18:15

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Ok, this is my second attempt! The answer is:

option 3!

explanation:

Consider giving each letter and shape a value like this: A=4, B=3, C=2, D=1, Rectangle=Circle=2 and Triangle=Line=anything!

Then :

if we add the values in each row, we get these numbers: First row=18+Line+Triangle=18+2*Line/Triangle.- Second row=18+2*Lines=18+2*Line/Triangle.- Fourth row=18+2*Lines=18+2*Line/Triangle.

Therefore:

considering the third row has the same value, it should also be like 18+2*Line/Triangle. So far, it is 14+1*Triangle, so the only option that can make it 18+2*Line/Triangle, is option 3.

edited Apr 14 '19 at 18:15

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answered Apr 13 '19 at 13:45

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But why organise the values in the way you have done for the rectangle and circle, and the triangle and line? This answer looks like a bit of coincidence, and I would thus be surprised if it was the real answer, albeit it is pretty cool nonetheless ;) – Mr Pie Apr 13 '19 at 13:52
What do you mean by "coincidence"?! This problem is already weird and I'm not saying that I got those values through logical steps! I just guessed that rows should have equal values (Actually I have had like a billion guesses since I saw this problem!) and I tried to find values that fit! – Hooman Neshat Apr 13 '19 at 14:50
I am saying it might be a coincidence because you let rectangle=circle=2 (why?) and triangle=line=anything (again, why?). Look, perhaps to say it is a "coincidence" is a bit harsh and disrespects your efforts, so I won't say that from now; but what I will say is that your decision to let the shapes equal those certain values seems arbitrary, no? – Mr Pie Apr 14 '19 at 10:15
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Yes it is! As I said, I just tried to find values that could fit my whole "equal value in each row" concept! And even though recent answers by other people are more beautiful and (in my opinion) correct, I believe I deserve some reputation because of starting the whole equal row stuff! Also, even my answer is ugly, it is still logically correct! I believe this problem has multiple answers, some beautiful some ugly(also look at my first attempt. That one is also correct but ugly!). Do you agree? – Hooman Neshat Apr 14 '19 at 19:47
Mmm... ok then... (+1) ;) – Mr Pie Apr 15 '19 at 03:41

score 3 · Answer 5 · answered Apr 02 '19 at 22:19

I believe the answer is:

3 (a.k.a: C or option number 3)

My reasoning:

I believe that the crosses and circle, and all that are just trying to fool you. So if you take those out, and put the normal numbers assigned to each letter (D is to 1, B is to 2, etc.), you will see a pattern going horizontally:

First row: 2, 1, 2, 1
Second row: 1, 2, 3, 4
Third row: 2, 2, ?(3), 3
Fourth row: 3, 3, 1, 1

Here you can see and obvious pattern. Then for the question mark, the pattern comes in duos: Two 2s, and Three 3s. That means the missing number is 3, and since the C is 3, the missing square is the C one.

The shapes have something to do with the puzzle – Rudy Matunic Apr 03 '19 at 01:24 — Rudy Matunic, Apr 03 '19 at 01:24

score 2 · Answer 6 · edited Apr 14 '19 at 18:50

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This might be a heck of a stretch..

If you count each unique symbol as a note on sheet music and use the slashes to determine sharp/flat, and then you use the letters to determine length of the note (quarter, half, whole, etc.) it creates _____ some unrecognizable music as far as I can tell. However, the only one that would fit with 4/4 music is :

selection 4, (A).

edited Apr 14 '19 at 18:50

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answered Apr 10 '19 at 18:01

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Although this was posted as an answer, it does not appear to attempt answering the question; it should possibly be a comment or even deleted altogether, thus I have in consequence flagged this as not an answer. Hope you understand. – Mr Pie Apr 13 '19 at 13:55
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... but it does attempt to answer the question. I agree it's a "heck of a stretch" but it's an answer justified with a reasoning. – Rubio Apr 13 '19 at 14:32
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@Rubio ok. Thanks for your opinion. Sorry, mkinson! – Mr Pie Apr 13 '19 at 17:22

score 2 · Answer 7 · edited Apr 14 '19 at 12:45

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I think the answer is

number 1.

Because

When we look diagonally, option 1 is the most logical one.

edited Apr 14 '19 at 12:45

yaara

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answered Apr 14 '19 at 11:14

Antonija

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How is it most logical? Is it because there are two B's and so there must be two D's, irrespective of the circles lines and squares? – Mr Pie Apr 14 '19 at 11:34
Not just that. There is a pattern in letters diagonally from left to right, and a pattern in shapes diagonally from right to left. Also, looking diagonally from top right, just one symbol is crossed. – Antonija Apr 15 '19 at 13:04
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So, my answer was the first correct one. Regardless the explanation. – Antonija May 14 '19 at 09:57
Hmm... you do have a point, there... $(+1)$ – Mr Pie May 14 '19 at 12:37

score 1 · Answer 8 · answered Apr 04 '19 at 02:09

Is it

option 2

let

for the shapes

Then for the shapes

you have rectangles ( R) on both diagonals, forming symmetry

and for the letters

You can see symmetric pattern formed by the shapes, as well as the letters in each column have 2 B's , 1 C, 1 D except the right most column
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score 1 · Answer 9 · edited Apr 14 '19 at 13:31

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Answer is

3

Explanation:

5 Ds
5 Cs 5 Bs

edited Apr 14 '19 at 13:31

Omega Krypton

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answered Apr 14 '19 at 12:57

Goran

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please explain your approach to this answer. thanks and happy puzzling ;) – Omega Krypton Apr 14 '19 at 13:30
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But what about the A's? since there is 1 A, then it means the number of letters don't matter. – Sensoray Apr 16 '19 at 19:56

Željko Zelenika · Answer 10 · 2019-04-14T18:15:07.490

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Answer is:

1.

explanation:

If you look diagonally from right to the left you have always one shape or letter in common and never same sign one after another so the correct answer is 1.

edited Apr 14 '19 at 18:15

answered Apr 14 '19 at 17:39

Željko Zelenika

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Given @Svenpošta's answer, this might be correct, but with a different reasoning. Whaddayaknow! :P – Mr Pie Apr 14 '19 at 17:40

score 0 · Answer 11 · edited Apr 10 '19 at 11:37

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The answer is

option 2.

Because

There are 8 pairs in this picture. Each square gets paired with another one, if they have only ONE difference (either shape or letter).

For example, if we number each square from 1 to 16, top left to bottom right, we can see that these numbers are paired: (1,12), (2,14), (3,9), (5,8), (6,10), (7,13), (15,16). Then the only pair left is (4,11) and the only option that can be paired with square 4, is option 2.

edited Apr 10 '19 at 11:37

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answered Apr 10 '19 at 11:09

Hooman Neshat

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Why not (1,16)? Or, crucially, why not (4,10) or (4,13)? – Rubio Apr 10 '19 at 22:10
There are other pairs as well and I just wrote those as examples. But you should be careful to choose pairs in such way that all squares can get paired provided the choices given. In any case the only option that can do so is option 2. You can check. – Hooman Neshat Apr 11 '19 at 05:49

score 0 · Answer 12 · edited Apr 16 '19 at 16:32

I believe that forms that are added to the letters are not relevant to sample detection.

The letters can be replaced by numbers in two ways (A = 1, B = 2, C = 3, D = 4)
2 4 2 4
4 2 3 1
2 2 1 3
3 3 4 4
or (A = 4, B = 3, C = 2, D = 1)
3 1 3 1
1 3 2 4
3 3 4 2
2 2 1 1
irrespective of how the letters are replaced by numbers, the sum of the two rows from the top and bottom are equal, such as the same are sums of the two columns on the right and on the left.

So the answer:

number 4 is correct (A missing)

Shapes and letters. What is the missing box?

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