I’m kind of stumped. Logically if a hexagon has 6 sides and you split it and add one (the line) it will always result in two quadrilaterals. I may be off.
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1Welcome to puzzling :) What hexagons are allowed(convex, concave?) and what about non-Euclidean plane? – ABcDexter Mar 24 '18 at 12:07
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Does the straight line have to perfectly divide the hexagon? – Arnav Borborah Mar 24 '18 at 12:09
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Anything. The only requirement is that you do not get two quadrilaterals. – Mike Mar 24 '18 at 12:09
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Although I think Euclidean geometry is implied. But I’d be satisfied with a non-Euclidean answer too. – Mike Mar 24 '18 at 12:12
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I have an answer, but it only fits the requirement given that the line cannot be on an edge of the hexagon. Otherwise, I can't seem to create two quadrilaterals, unless the line is on the line as an edge. Is the line allowed to be part of an edge of the hexagon? – Arnav Borborah Mar 24 '18 at 12:34
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Anything is allowed except getting two quadrilaterals as a result. May I see it? – Mike Mar 24 '18 at 12:36
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@Mike That doesn't really make sense (If anything except two quadrilaterals is allowed, then technically my image doesn't fit) However, here it is: image. (I am refraining from posting as an answer) You can still create two quads if you extend the second edge from the bottom-left. – Arnav Borborah Mar 24 '18 at 12:39
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If the requirement is that the line is not part of the hexagon’s side then yours is good. But what of the other case? – Mike Mar 24 '18 at 12:54
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I think finally the edited version works after lots of help from @Rubio – tom Mar 24 '18 at 13:39
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Mike, can you decide if it is a requirement or not that the line is not part of / extending one of the sides of the original hexagon? If that's not allowed, there are figures already presented here which cannot be split into two quadrilaterals by a single straight line. If it is allowed, then those figures are all so divisible. I think we need a ruling, and the puzzle needs to state what the ruling is :) – Rubio Mar 24 '18 at 13:59
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1Is a self-intersecting six edged figure still a hexagon? If so then I believe this would be a solution (where the third edge crosses back over the first to make a figure eight) – IanF1 Mar 24 '18 at 14:35
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@IanF1 that sounds correct - can you post it as an answer then it can be upvoted - it completely satisfies all the requirements of the question and given everything else that we've done to the hexagon a common vertex seems like a minor worry – tom Mar 24 '18 at 15:10
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This is way trickier than it seems.
That's why I'm not claiming with 100% certainty that this works, but I couldn't figure out a way to split this one:
(all the vertices lie on one (or both) of the two intersecting straight lines.)
Here's another, more symmetric candidate using the same idea (hope I didn't introduce any new problems by changing the layout):
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1@tom yeah, me too! It kind of works like a magic trick; when you try splitting through one of the upper corners, and are trying to find a proper spot for the other end of the split on the horizontal bit: the part that isn't a quadrangle is pentagon, pentagon, still pentagon, soon going to lose a vertex but it's still a pentagon.. POOF it's a frigging triangle :-) A similar thing happens when trying to split through one of the concave corners, but in that case it's the quadrangle side that magically loses a corner at exactly the right moment. – Bass Mar 24 '18 at 21:25
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The bottom "more symmetric" solution relies on the requirement to "split" the hexagon. Joining the bottom vertices results in an enclosing rectangle and a trapezium but doesn't split the original shape. – Lawrence Mar 24 '18 at 23:16
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I do not understand why one vertical centre line on the second one would not fail. Perhaps I do no understand quadrilateral and just need a dictionary and some math. – Willtech Mar 24 '18 at 23:47
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4@Willtech splitting like that results in two pentagons (5 sides) and not quadrilaterals (4 sides) – Ivo Mar 25 '18 at 01:52
Maybe I've misunderstood the question or I'm missing something obvious, but I think the following works:
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Edit - I thought that there is no solution after @Rubio pointed out issues with version 3 - as he says if you can extend a line and cut along it then the version 3 figures fail --- I expected that the intented answer is Version 3 and that the cuts shown by Rubio were not allowed - or were not considered...
Now @Bass found a neat solution and @IanF1 has an interesting solution that might be allowed as well!! - all the answers here don't work.
Rubios images to show how things don't work
Version 3
working finally, I think,
Note
that to get two quadrilaterals it is necessary to draw lines between 'opposite' corners... This fails for all three pairs in the image above as shown in the diagram below
A more symmetrical(ish) hexagonal that works is
my first attempt at this is below, it is not so obvious
finally after 2 faied attempts I think this works....
thanks to Rubio for pointing out the problem with version two below
Rubio cut it like this....
Version 2
I think this is an answer {no it wasn't :_( }.... my first attempt below does not work - there is still one straight line that will split it into two quadrilaterals
Version 1
This can be split into two quadrilaterals - thanks to @Rubio for the image of the split
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@Rubio - you beat me - I was just creating exacty the same image when you posted your comment – tom Mar 24 '18 at 13:18
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@Rubio - ok - think this is ok now - see last edit and 3 attempts to cut the hexagon. -- bu a big bigt THANK YOU. i would not have got there without your helpful comments – tom Mar 24 '18 at 13:40
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I knew that the answer had to entail all possible lines going outside the area of the hexagon in order for the solution to be valid but I just couldn’t visualize it. – Mike Mar 24 '18 at 13:44
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....... This?! - now you're in the same camp as the folks commenting on the main post: is extending one of the original hexagon's sides allowed, because if so, this one is not a solution either. Same for the "more symmetric" version - you can internally extend any of 3 of the sides and cut the figure into two quadrilaterals (thusly, for example). – Rubio Mar 24 '18 at 13:47
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@Mike - see latest ecit - there is a more symmetrical version.... imagine taking every other corner of hexagon and pulling them in then twisting them around... – tom Mar 24 '18 at 13:47
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@Rubio - thanks again for your useful comments with this - I am pretty sure that version 3 is the intended answer, but cannot prove that it is the closest we can get to a solution. -- and sorry I guess I should have tracked the main discussion comments before answering – tom Mar 24 '18 at 14:46
Here's mine:
The opposite vertices, AD, BE and DF, are made invisible to each other by the edges BC, CD and DE. Then all that remains is to ensure F can see both E and A.
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this is very similar to my version 3, which @rubio has proved is not a solution... extend your line CD till it cuts the hexagon in 2 then you get two quadrilaterals.... – tom Mar 24 '18 at 13:55
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You're also in the same camp as the folks commenting on the main post: is extending one of the original hexagon's sides allowed? If so, this one is not a solution either, because this. – Rubio Mar 24 '18 at 13:56
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It’s not specified but for the purpose of a challenge let’s assume extending the sides is not allowed. – Mike Mar 24 '18 at 14:04
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extending (if necessary) both of a pair of opposite edges results in two quads, i guess at least one must always be internally? @Rubio – JMP Mar 24 '18 at 14:05
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2i just saw it as a soft version of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_gallery_problem – JMP Mar 24 '18 at 14:08
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2@Mike If extending a side is not allowed then there have been several figures already posted that cannot be divided into two quadrilaterals by a single straight line. Your "question" doesn't really ask a question - if the challenge is literally the title, then it's too broad because there's going to be a lot of ways to do it (assuming side extension is forbidden). You should either make the question "Can it be done?", or come up with tighter criteria so that there aren't an infinite number of solutions. – Rubio Mar 24 '18 at 14:12
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@Rubio, you’re right. I stand by the original question : Can it be done? That’s all. Although it’s fun exploring what happens under constraints. – Mike Mar 24 '18 at 14:16
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@Mike - I think the answer to Can it be done is no, - but I guess you require proof.... ?? – tom Mar 24 '18 at 14:50













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