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An old man and his mute niece always wanted to visit some beautiful tropical island.

"Before my sight leaves me, I want to see how a real palm looks like!", said the old man. He was lying. His sight had already left him, and he could still see silhouettes and shadows, but communication in sign language with his niece was getting more and more complicated.

Nevertheless, they decided to go.

They left on a small boat, one of those tourist trips on a sailboat. There were 10 people on the boat, including them.

They were approaching a very nice archipelago when it began.

A storm, a powerful one, overturned the boat, leaving the crew in the ocean to struggle for life. The niece, although chubby and weak, managed to rescue her grandfather and reach a deserted little island in the archipelago with other 3 people. The sea halved them, but still there was hope.

Days passed with very low food. Our two tourists were weak and hungry and only a little water supply was available. After a week one of the man said that he would begin to hunt for seagulls, of which the island had a lot. The old man only saw a big black cloud talking, the salt and sand had only worsen his sight, and, beaten by hunger, promptly said "Yes...please...".

Apparently, the hunter was a very good one. Finally they could eat something, and could also eat it cooked since a fire was lit up by one of the survivors.

A few other days passed. The seagulls were manna for them, but not enough to give them strength to move. All the day the old man sat beneath a palm thinking "This is not how I wanted to see them...".

Suddenly a great "WOO" echoed in the archipelago. A cruise ship. A cruise ship! They waved vigorously, everyone beside the old man, he was too weak. The ship arrived and collected them all.

"We are safe!" thought the old man. Then, with his heart in peace, he fell asleep, only to wake up in the medical wing of the ship.

"Come, my friend, it's time for you to eat something good!" said the captain. They went to the restaurant and the old man couldn't believe his eyes and almost cried to the signboard at the entry:

TODAY'S SPECIAL: SEAGULL MEAT!

"Well, at least it will be well cooked," he thought. He cut the meat and tried it. A tear slipped on his cheek. He stood up and went to the deck of the ship. He climbed over the railing and jumped off the ship, giving to the sea another victim.

Why did the old man commit suicide?

DISCLAIMER: I wrote this riddle long on purpose. I think an interesting story behind enhances the fun.

Rand al'Thor
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    This is similar to another one on this site (can't find the link). Don't want to say the answer in a comment without a spoiler tag; let's just say the cruise ship is serving proper seagull meat - none of that cheap stuff. – Nigel Ellis Nov 07 '14 at 16:08
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    I think the other question has been deleted. I searched for salmon but didn't find it. – Kate Gregory Nov 07 '14 at 16:28
  • Yes, it has; I had the correct answer on it. Oh well. – generalcrispy Nov 07 '14 at 16:33
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    ...was the old man deaf or blind? If he was blind, why was his niece using sign language? – generalcrispy Nov 07 '14 at 16:35
  • The question this reminds me of is http://puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/2727 – JonTheMon Nov 07 '14 at 16:36
  • He was almost blind and the niece mute. I searched for a similar question and didn't found it, sorry if its a repost! – Narmer Nov 07 '14 at 16:43
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    This is a variation of the albatross soup problem. These are considered situation riddles, and had you not posted the backstory (which is supposed to be deduced through closed-ended questions), it may not have been suitable for this site. –  Nov 07 '14 at 17:22
  • @generalcrispy He didn't use sign language, but he did read the sign language used by his mute niece. – corsiKa Nov 07 '14 at 19:06
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    Nice story by the way. – EJC Nov 07 '14 at 20:37
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    Btw in English niece <-> uncle, granddaughter <-> grandfather. Unlike for example Italian, where niece and granddaughter are both "nipote". – Steve Jessop Nov 08 '14 at 12:37
  • @Steve Uh, you're right! Does the fact that I'm in fact italian help? :P – Narmer Nov 08 '14 at 12:38
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    @Narmer: it helps me, since I can feel very clever for solving the riddle, "someone says "niece" when they mean "granddaughter", why?" ;-) – Steve Jessop Nov 08 '14 at 12:42
  • @Narmer To clarify, the "he realised he had eaten his niece" answer is only a partial solution? Is there any chance you could give a hint as to what's still missing? – starsplusplus May 01 '15 at 13:14
  • 3 years and no accepted answer. Please put us out of our misery. – Pharap Nov 29 '17 at 02:13

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Several answers have got the basic idea, but here is (what I believe to be) the full solution.

When the old man ate the seagull meat, he discovered

it tasted different to the meat he had been eating on the island.

The first thing the old man realised:

Since there was no reason for the captain to lie, the hunter must have been lying. Why would the hunter have been lying? Because they were really eating human flesh.

The second thing the old man realised:

Days passed between landing on the island and them getting their first meal. In tropical heat, there's no way that the body of one of the five passengers that had died in the storm would have still been fresh after all that time, even if it had washed ashore. Someone had been killed and eaten.

The third thing the old man realised:

There were five survivors on the island - himself, his niece and three others. He had heard the voice of the hunter, and presumably the voices of the other two people on the island when they all cried "WOO!" On the other hand, he had had no communication with his niece since his sight had left him. He was blind and she was mute, so there was no way for her to communicate with him (apparently they weren't the hugging type). What's more, his niece was chubby, meaning there was plenty to eat, and weak, meaning she could easily be killed. She was a prime target. She had been killed and eaten.

In summary:

His niece had survived the storm and the shipwreck only to be killed and eaten once they had got to the island. His niece had been murdered and he had eaten her body.

He couldn't live with this knowledge and he killed himself.

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The old man was supposed to be practically blind by now. However:

the old man couldn't believe his eyes and almost cried to the signboard at the entry: TODAY SPECIAL: SEAGULL MEAT!

He can suddenly read, which means that during the stay on the island his eyesight was somehow cured. Apparently, seagul meat (or human flesh, when the other answers are also right) was the remedy for his condition.

He went outside and saw the palms on the island nearby. He had now fulfilled his live goal of seeing a palm tree and was able to die in peace.

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Because

he was eating what had been termed seagull meat on the island, when in fact he was eating the flesh of the dead. He realized he was a cannabal then, because now was the true "seagull meat".

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Five people saying almost the same thing? Well I like to be different, so try this for an answer:

The old man tasted the seagull and realized it was the exact same meat he'd been eating all along - it wasn't "good" food cooked properly or anything, just more seagull meat cooked by the same firepit they've been using this entire time. He realized that he was hallucinating/losing his mind and went to jump because he was still stuck on that island.

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It wasn't salty enough. .

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He committed suicide because the seagull meat tasted absolutely awful.

The man was of course the first to try the seagull meat; soon the other sailors tried the meat and followed the man in one of the greatest mass-suicides known to man.

The ship was found a few weeks later on the 5th of December 1872 in the Atlantic Ocean.

The ship's name, if you haven't already guessed, was the Mary Celeste.

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    The only problem with this answer is that a brigantine is by no stretch of the imagination a "cruise ship", and certainly wouldn't have made the loud "WOO" of a ship's foghorn that they all heard (given that the Daboll trumpet wasn't trialed until 1874, and even then only as a land-based foghorn). – Doktor J May 01 '15 at 22:42
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    @DoktorJ A brigantine having a foghorn is probably still more realistic than people committing mass suicide because of foul-tasting seagull meat. – Pharap May 02 '15 at 17:08
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He was blind. After he was rescued and he ate the seagull from the restaurant it didn't taste the same as the meat he had eaten on the island. Therefore, he surmised that on the island he had been eating the flesh of the human victims of the crash. He couldn't live with the thought that he ate his own niece and so killed himself.

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  • The answer is pratically correct, altough, and I'm going to be unpopolar on this, I wouldn't mindlessly kill myself for eating flesh in a life-dangerous situation, there is something more... – Narmer Nov 07 '14 at 16:47
  • @Narmer, he ate his own nice, isn't that bad enough? – Kenshin Nov 07 '14 at 16:53
  • Well, that's not specified in your answer ;) (his niece was alive btw) – Narmer Nov 07 '14 at 16:54
  • @Narmer, I've edited now :) – Kenshin Nov 07 '14 at 16:55
  • Although he might have eaten his own niece we have been presented with no evidence that he had, have we? – Chris Nov 07 '14 at 17:45
  • @Chris Well, the evidence should be that he did not think twice in killing himself. But as I can see it's not so, well, evident – Narmer Nov 07 '14 at 18:11
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    I see no evidence that anyone had been eaten -- nothing says that the dead washed (or were dragged) ashore, no evidence that his niece had perished (wouldn't he be asking where she was?), and no count of survivors taken aboard the ship. "They waved vigorously, everyone beside the old man, he was too weak. The ship arrived and collected them all" -- not "collected all four of them", not "the three survivors waved vigorously"... nothing like that. Also no evidence that there might not have been seagulls to suggest the hunter was returning with anything other than seagull meat. – Doktor J Nov 07 '14 at 19:27
  • The niece managed to save him, there were 3 other survivors, and altogether there were 5 of the original 10 people that made it alive to the island (the original company was "halved"). So, we know at least that the niece made it to the island alive. – Jason Nov 07 '14 at 19:39
  • @DoktorJ She made it to the island, but she was unable to communicate with him after his vision got worse because she was mute. So he wouldn't have realised she wasn't there. – starsplusplus May 01 '15 at 13:16
  • @starsplusplus A typical way to communicate with someone who is both blind and deaf is to sign in their hands (known as "Hands-on Signing"), I would expect this to work well for a blind man and mute woman who both know sign language. – Joel Rondeau May 01 '15 at 17:27
  • @JoelRondeau That's interesting; I didn't know that. However, would he be expecting her to do it per se if they'd never been in that situation before? He was pretty distracted what with being ill and newly-blind. – starsplusplus May 01 '15 at 19:51
  • I'd expect them to try something, not just give up. I'd also expect them to have tried it already given how bad his eyes had already gotten. – Joel Rondeau May 01 '15 at 19:52
  • @JoelRondeau agreed. He never thought to himself, "funny, I haven't seen my niece around lately"? She wasn't blind, and given that they had a reasonably close relationship, he didn't find it odd that she wasn't making any sort of fuss about him not responding to her sign language? He didn't try talking to her ("wow this guy is really nice getting food for us, don't you think?") and notice that there was zero response?

    I get the point of the riddle... but there are just too many logical failures for it to make much sense to me :P

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I do not have enough reputation to comment so I will post this in an answer. The sound of "Seagull" and "Sea Girl" sound so strange that the old man might have realized that when the hunter was talking about feeding him seagull meat, he was actually talking about the niece. When he tasted seagull meat on the ship he realized his folly and hence committed suicide.

Just a trial on my part :) Also I think that the seagull and sea-girl explanation sounds so cool.

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    Nice riddley answer! When I saw your first sentence I was going to flag it for mods to convert to a comment, but I think it works as an answer. – Rand al'Thor Apr 03 '15 at 12:08
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They were eating seagull on the island.

It was a cannibal cruise ship!
Poor niece.

Or ...

He'd gotten a corneal transplant from his now-dead niece. Cannibals are better!

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The old man was actually a retired spy. The enemy found him and were pretending to care for him while they actually wanted to get information from him. Due to his rigorous training, a single bite into the seagull meat allowed him to realize that there was truth serum in the food. Not wanting to give up his nation's secrets, he commits suicide.

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    +1 for interesting alternative theory (though I doubt "the enemy" would've just let him get up from his meal, walk to the railing, and jump overboard) :D – Doktor J May 01 '15 at 22:46
  • @Doktor I like my answer better than the canonical answer. :P – Aura May 04 '15 at 13:16
  • Agreed... too many holes in the story/assumptions in the canonical answer. Yours still has a hole, but at least it's not one you could drive a cruise ship through ;) – Doktor J May 04 '15 at 18:34
  • Also, the enemy had their guard down, and didn't think that the old man would realize so quickly that it was a trap all along, and unintentionally let him slip by. – Aura Sep 15 '15 at 18:54
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The meat in the restaurant tasted unlike anything he had eaten on the desert island, and the old man realised that he had been fed meat from those who had drowned.

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The answer:

What the old man didn't know on the island was that the meat given to him was actually human meat, the flesh of another survivor of the storm. After tasting real seagull meat on the cruise ship, he noticed the difference in taste and realised that he had been fed human meat. After finding out he was a cannibal, the old man saw no choice but to kill himself.

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i think that the man just saw the palms and died before getting completely blind, according to the first old man's sentence. There is no evidence to state he ate the dead.

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  • What? The question clearly states that he lived, and that he committed suicide after eating the seagull meat. – Mithical Jul 13 '16 at 17:17