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According to the UN special rapporteur on the right to food Michael Fakhri:

Israel is intentionally starving Palestinians and should be held accountable for war crimes – and genocide, according to the UN’s leading expert on the right to food.

"There is no reason to intentionally block the passage of humanitarian aid or intentionally obliterate small-scale fishing vessels, greenhouses and orchards in Gaza – other than to deny people access to food," Michael Fakhri, the UN special rapporteur on the right to food, told the Guardian.

Has the state of Israel given any justification for any actions it has taken that affect Palestinians' access to food in Gaza? What rationale has the state of Israel given?

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    Re Vote to Close. While I doubt it can be answered objectively beyond quoting official position, by the time people are starving, it also looks somewhat like this question and really no more or no less subject to closure for "discredit or asking internal motivations". – Italian Philosophers 4 Monica Feb 28 '24 at 23:10
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    @Obie 2.0 - your observation could be reconciled by interpreting the Q as "for what purpose" does Israel gov + public support such methods. The answer of end goals is (oddly) less controversial than how exactly we got to this point, and why self styled champions of human rights in Western capitals choose to look the other way. The leaders in Israel are clear on their desires. In the Netanyahu era, it drives toward one state, with all the land, and a durable ethno-religious demographic majority. – Pete W Feb 29 '24 at 00:56
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    I reverted the rude/abusive flags because the post doesn't violate the code of conduct. Those flags should not be used to circumvent the close vote and vote to delete curation system. – JJJ Mar 02 '24 at 15:18
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    Sorry, while "starving" in the title might have been a bit much, "actions pertaining to food and Palestinians" is waaaay too euphemistic in the current context. Getting rid of the poll results is for the best though, as that made into somewhat of a leading question. – Italian Philosophers 4 Monica Mar 05 '24 at 17:05

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There's a poll that found that Israelis want food/aid traded for hostages:

Also regarding the hostages, Channel 12 asked whether Israelis support halting humanitarian aid to Gaza until Hamas returns all the hostages it is holding. An overwhelming 72% said yes, while 21% said the aid should continue.

Beyond that, one would have to read between the lines of what some government ministers said. But, of course, that is not official policy. And to be fair, Netanyahu did cave in a fair bit to the US (e.g. opening Kerem Shalom) relative to some of those hardline initial statements from October. I'm not sure it's worth getting in all those details...


But since we have a never-heard-of-that in another answer... ("I have not seen any evidence of Israel intentionally trying to starve civilian population.") here's some Freudian slip from the early days

“I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed,” Gallant says.

“We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly,” he adds.


As for the (upvoted) claim Gaza is not slowly starving as of now, that's also disinformation according even to the US

On average, only 62 trucks have entered Gaza each day over the past two weeks, according to figures from the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs — well below the 200 trucks per day Israel has committed to facilitating. Just four trucks crossed on two separate days this week. Aid groups, which have warned of a looming famine, estimate that some 500 trucks are needed each day to meet people’s basic needs.

After a string of Israeli attacks on members of Gaza’s Hamas-run civilian police force, officers withdrew earlier this month from the Palestinian side of the Kerem Shalom crossing with Israel. Since they left, trucks have been attacked in the crossing’s holding area, according to U.N. humanitarian coordinator James McGoldrick. Drivers have been shot at, attacked with axes and box cutters, and had their windows smashed, he said.

“With the departure of police escorts it has been virtually impossible for the U.N. or anyone else ... to safely move assistance in Gaza because of criminal gangs,” U.S. Ambassador David Satterfield, appointed by President Biden to coordinate humanitarian aid to Gaza, said Friday.

“Because of the attacks on the U.N. convoys and others, the value of things has risen, which only feeds a vicious cycle to empower more criminal activities,” he added. Satterfield said Israeli forces had killed as many as nine Palestinian police officers involved in protecting aid convoys, including a commander. Police include “Hamas elements” he said, but also people who are politically unaffiliated and remnants of Palestinian Authority forces.

So, yeah, Israel has a plausible excuse for causing this state of affairs, but the state exists, even according to the US.

To say nothing of what UN-linked organizations say, in more quantitative terms, e.g.

One in every 6 children in the north is suffering from acute malnutrition, according to a World Health Organization nutritional analysis, with 3 percent of them exhibiting “severe wasting” — putting them at risk of death unless they receive urgent medical treatment. [...]

The World Food Program announced it was forced to stop food deliveries to the north this week, citing the “complete chaos and violence due to the collapse of civil order.” UNRWA has not been able to make any deliveries to northern Gaza since Jan. 23, said Tamara Alrifai, its director of external relations.

Northern Gaza is where Israel declared "mission accomplished" (albeit not in those exact words) a couple of months ago.

7 January

The Israeli army says it has "completed the dismantling" of Hamas's command structure in the northern Gaza Strip.

Did the IDF just leave after that? I think their troops are still there, so it's effectively their military occupation now. Which under the Geneva Conventions obliges them to provide for the civilian population still there.

See also the somewhat provocative Q on Skeptics on this.

USAID-funded FEWS NET also had made a similar prediction in their Dec 2023 report (their last one on Gaza thus far)

There is a risk of Famine (IPC Phase 5) occurring in future months should conditions persist or further deteriorate. Current levels of humanitarian access and aid are far outpaced by the level of need. Urgent diplomatic and humanitarian actions – including, at a minimum, reducing administrative barriers at border crossing points to permit increased flows of humanitarian aid and fuel supply deliveries and ensuring safe and sustained humanitarian access – are required to enable an immediate scale-up of multisectoral food, water, sanitation, and hygiene (WASH), and health interventions to mitigate elevated levels of acute food insecurity, acute malnutrition, and mortality.

And the polls are not entirely irrelevant either. Israeli protesters have blocked the crossing several times according to the UN (alas exact stats on this are hard to find.) But you can see several videos on youtube of that happening, e.g..

As for the recently commenced air drops, they're the proverbial drop in the sea:

Aid groups typically drop supplies by air only as a last resort, given the inefficiency and relative cost of the method compared with road deliveries, as well as the dangers of navigating air space over a conflict zone and the risk to people who could potentially be hit as supplies fall to the ground if a safe drop zone cannot be established.

Despite the limitations of airdrops, France said it was ramping up its work with Jordan because Gaza’s “humanitarian situation is absolutely urgent,” according to a French foreign ministry statement.

“With a growing number of civilians in Gaza dying of hunger and disease,” the statement said, there need to be more avenues for aid deliveries, including the port of Ashdod in Israel, north of Gaza.

The French Air Force plane that participated in Monday’s airdrop, alongside three planes from its Jordanian counterpart, dropped more than two tons of food and hygiene supplies, the French foreign ministry said.

That amount is much smaller than what can be carried in a single truckload of supplies, and overall represents just a fraction of what the United Nations says is needed by Gaza’s more than two million residents.


Add to the list of plausible reasons: 'UNRWA is Hamas' (ibid; sometimes conceded as 'Hamas with a facelift') , so they can't be allowed to have food [to distribute] either.

Israel has agreed to a new arrangement that will allow for a massive American shipment of flour for Gazan civilians to move forward after far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich blocked its transfer for over a month, a US official told The Times of Israel.

Under the new arrangement, the flour, capable of feeding 1.5 million Gazans for five months, will be ferried into Gaza by the World Food Program rather than the UNRWA relief agency for Palestinian refugees, the official said.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu privately informed the Biden administration that Israel approved the shipment in early January. The White House announced the development on January 19, as it came under increasing pressure to do more to address the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.

But more than one month later, the flour has yet to enter Gaza.

The shipment arrived at Israel’s Ashdod Port, but Smotrich blocked its transfer to UNRWA, which came under fire last month over allegations that 12 of its staffers participated in the October 7 terror onslaught.

The delay has angered the Biden administration, which has repeatedly noted in recent weeks that Israel is violating the commitments it made to the president.

And the anger goes the other way around too, by the way:

“Instead of giving us his full backing, Biden is busy with giving humanitarian aid and fuel [to Gaza], which goes to Hamas,” [National Security Minister Itamar] Ben-Gvir said. “If Trump was in power, the U.S. conduct would be completely different.”


As for point-blank denials that Israel has anything to do with it, there's that too:

Asked why more aid isn’t reaching Gaza by land, Netanyahu said: “Hamas is coming at gunpoint and stealing the food.

“Humanitarian deaths and starvation is, for us, it’s a tragedy. For them, it’s a strategy. They think that this will help them place more pressure on Israel to stop the war, leave them in place so they can repeat the October 7 massacre.”

Anyhow, Netanyahu's claim is being repeated by the protesters who are trying to block the trucks on the Israeli side, i.e. that the food is not going to the children of Gaza, but to Hamas, that the sacks of rice are filled with bullets etc. But reports are that the Israeli police has been more forceful with the protesters recently. Israeli police also turned back a non-authorized convoy by (opposing) Israeli activists apparently attempting to deliver some food to Gaza, outside of the approved channels.

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You ask "why", when the "that" has not been proven.

Your source is Michael Fakhri, and while UN sounds objective and neutral, we know that it isn't. Mr. Fakhri is not entirely uninvolved. His family is Lebanese, his mother languages are English and Arabic. His objectivity is not a given. And, according to this link posted in the comments, quite the opposite (though that link is also not a neutral entity).

Israel has given no official statement saying why "they intentionally starve" Gaza because Israel has not officially stated anywhere that they do so.

Aid flowing into Gaza is inspected by Israeli forces, who after Oct 7th have an understandable interest in not allowing even more weapons, explosives, etc. being smuggled into Gaza.

The cause for little aid arriving in Gaza is not entirely clear, as everyone blames everyone else. For example: in this article, Israel blames the humanitarian organisations providing the aid and also claims that the distribution inside Gaza is at fault. If you search a bit, you can find hundreds of articles where different parties blame everyone except themselves.

At least from official sources, your question cannot be answered, in part because you assume something to be true that has not been demonstrated to be true.

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    One more point that leaves the scope of a narrow answer: A big problem with aid of all kinds in Gaza is that the official government of Gaza, Hamas, does not consider itself responsible for protecting or helping the people of Gaza, as they have themselves stated: https://www.hindustantimes.com/videos/world-news/gaza-civilians-not-our-responsibility-hamas-puts-onus-on-israel-un-as-death-toll-crosses-8000-101698736271078.html – Tom Feb 29 '24 at 13:21
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    The first paragraph is an Ad Hominen. - - The second paragraph is a tautology. - - And your conclusion is debatable. An UN report is an official source. What do you consider official sources??? – Mindwin Remember Monica Feb 29 '24 at 13:29
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    Finally, your comment is wrong. Hamas is not the official government of Gaza. Most western sources, including the US government, considers them the "de facto" government but do not recognize them. Where does the officiality claim comes from? – Mindwin Remember Monica Feb 29 '24 at 13:31
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    Your objection to the "officiality" of Hamas is tangential. Hamas is in charge over there whether foreign states recognize them or not. – carrizal Feb 29 '24 at 13:47
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    Your criticism of Fakhri is valid, but not for the reasons you're criticising him. – Ian Kemp Feb 29 '24 at 13:58
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    So Michael Fakhri is biased because ... wait for it ... he speaks Arabic! By that logic, anyone who speaks English cannot be unbiased when it comes to England or USA? – Ben Cohen Feb 29 '24 at 14:06
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    You're forgetting that the source is cited in The Guardian, a reputable newspaper. The article contains several graphs and offers evidence for the claim. For instance the Guardian says that "Israel has made foraging for native wild herbs like za’atar (thyme), ‘akkoub (gundelia) and miramiyyeh (sage) a criminal offense punishable by fines and up to three years’ imprisonment. Palestinians fishers have for years been shot at, arrested and sabotaged by Israeli forces – in violation of the 1995 Oslo accords permitting them fishing access up to 20 nautical miles." – Erwan Feb 29 '24 at 14:32
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    @MindwinRememberMonica "official" in this context refers to Israel officials, just like the OP asked. I doubt the objectivity, not officiality, of the UN - and it's a well-documented fact that the UN leans heavily anti-Israel. If you doubt it, look up the number of resolutions passed. – Tom Feb 29 '24 at 18:02
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    @BenCohen you picked out ONE fragment and then bash it, pretending the rest doesn't exist. There's a term for that. It's a dirty trick. The point is not his language, the point is that his roots are in one of the Middle East countries that has had wars against Isreal. I'm not saying he is biased - I don't know him enough for that - but that him being unbiased is not a given. – Tom Feb 29 '24 at 18:05
  • @Tom "We know that it isn't" sounds more like "he's biased" than "him being unbiased is not a given". – gerrit Mar 01 '24 at 07:24
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    @gerrit That the UN is not neutral on Isreal is a given. Just look up the number of resolutions it has passed against Isreal and compare them to the number passed against any other brutal, oppressive regime that violates human rights on a daily basis. – Tom Mar 01 '24 at 08:17
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    @Tom They've ruled at least 32 times against Russia on Abkhazia. They've ruled against Morocco on West Sahara, against the UK on the Chagos Islands, against China on Tibet (a long time ago). Apart from Morocco, Russia, UK, I don't know if other countries are occupying foreign territories long-term (not sure if China/Tibet counts as such) — with the difference being that afaik those countries aren't settling the occupied territories (except China). I don't see a bias against Israel. – gerrit Mar 01 '24 at 10:51
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    Unfortunately, Israel does not occupy Gaza. Unless, we agree that Syria occupies Israel (by that same logic used to claim things against Israel). Then, obviously, we should ask ourselves why Syria occupies also Gaza? – dEmigOd Mar 01 '24 at 13:30
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    re: "Israel has given no official statement saying why "they intentionally starve" Gaza because Israel has not officially stated anywhere that they do so." How else would you interpret the Gallant human-animals quote? – jazzpi Mar 01 '24 at 14:18
  • @Tom how would the number of resolutions prove anything one way or another? You could only demonstrate bias by showing that the resolutions were wrong or unfair or otherwise biased. The number alone is not evidence of anything. There may well be bias, but you cannot know that by looking at the number. Only if you assume that Israel is blameless by definition can you use the raw number as evidence of bias. – terdon Mar 01 '24 at 19:23
  • @MindwinRememberMonica An UN report is an official source. "Official source" of what? What do you mean by an "official source"? – user76284 Mar 02 '24 at 02:47
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    @terdon when the number of resultions for human rights violations against Israel is considerably higher than that against Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Afghanistan COMBINED, are there any questions left about bias? – Tom Mar 02 '24 at 09:48
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    @jazzpi "animals" is not a friendly comment, certainly. But it does not contain the words "we intentionally starve them", nor any other words with an identical meaning. – Tom Mar 02 '24 at 09:49
  • @user76284 you are correct. I've changed it to "objective" because that's what I meant. – Tom Mar 02 '24 at 09:50
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Why is Israel starving Gaza?

It is not. Opinions and polls aside, facts do matter. There's transfer of goods into Gaza, and Israel is not the only state bordering it. There's the border with Egypt through which goods may be imported, there's supplies being dropped into Gaza by the Jordanian and French military (with Israel's support and approval), and of course transfer of goods from Israel.

Trying to paint Israeli's self-defense as a nefarious attempt to harm Palestinians is hugely dishonest. After all, it was the Palestinians who started this war. In the end of the day the responsibility for the Gazan population is on the Gazan government, and only them. And it was that government that decided to start a war of aggression with Israel, knowing perfectly well what the response would be.

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    Not my DV, but Israel also has some control over the Rafah crossing. By agreement with the Egyptians, trucks get first inspected in Israel, even when they ultimately cross into Gaza from Egypt. – the gods from engineering Feb 29 '24 at 00:17
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    @Dolphin613Motorboat That doesn't prevent Egyptians from providing food to Gaza. The inspection is to prevent movement of weapons. Israel has no power to prevent Egypt from doing anything along its strech of the border with Gaza, so at the very least the question should read "Why are Israel and Egypt starving Gaza", but that's contrary to the Palestinian narrative. – littleadv Feb 29 '24 at 00:19
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    Israeli protesters (ie nationalist ones who support a de facto blockade) have been blocking the border crossing, and Israeli army protects the protesters. ... https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/02/10/gaza-aid-blockade-protest-kerem-shalom/ ... There's some back and forth on this, but generally it's a similar attitude as the authorities show to de facto annexation, piecemeal, by settlers of the West Bank – Pete W Feb 29 '24 at 01:03
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    Hmmm, let's separate the military ground operations in Gaza - the self-defense part - from food issues for a second. It is not exactly candid to claim Israel has no part in food supply issues. https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/02/15/israel-blocks-food-aid-destined-for-gaza-at-the-port-of-ashdod_6526783_4.html Especially not when their government is on the record about limiting aid in case Hamas gets it. Israel is doing itself no favors by following this policy and this reputational damage will get much worse if more people starve. As it should. – Italian Philosophers 4 Monica Feb 29 '24 at 01:07
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    Facts do matter: https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/defense-minister-announces-complete-siege-of-gaza-no-power-food-or-fuel/ – kaya3 Feb 29 '24 at 16:29
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    Please don't delete this answer (we have one Delete vote to date). It illustrates the Israeli PoV and self-rationalization fairly well. And also, shows that, at least in this instance, Israel is in firmly in wrong, ethically. DV away if you must, but don't delete. – Italian Philosophers 4 Monica Feb 29 '24 at 16:54
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    @Dolphin613Motorboat I think you need to reread my comment above: this is very much the Israeli PoV we've seen from pretty much everyone that justifies the blockade. Whether or not this viewpoint is factually correct, ethical, legal or even productive - in the sense of long term Israeli interests, is another matter entirely. The deleted one is just a whatabout and the other one is more throwing up smoke than trying to explain Israeli motivations. – Italian Philosophers 4 Monica Mar 01 '24 at 10:09
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    "There's transfer of goods into Gaza.." But how much? A fact based answer would probably make a statement about how much food was needed and how much was brought in in comparison. I agree with highlighting the importance of getting facts. This here should be one of the easier to quantify problems. Malnutrition or starvation or the absence of it can be measured by medical personnel relatively easy. – NoDataDumpNoContribution Mar 04 '24 at 21:07
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Israel does not want Palestinians in Gaza (or elsewhere) and they manage to have quite high birth rate. Israel does not consider assimilating Palestinians as desirable and has reasons for that. For starters, Israel does not want to implement two-state solution, and every Palestinian in Palestine is a reason for two-state solution to be implemented.

Therefore, Israel will be happy if some/most of Gazans disappear. Whether they go to Egypt or EU or under the ground is of secondary significance. Palestinians in Gaza will always be a problem for Israel and it has no plans of normalizing the coexistence with them. Israel is not going to issue passports to them, nor would it recognize Palestine.

Therefore, politically it is beneficial for them if Gazans starve. Especially if they plausible do it on their own, due to their uncooperativeness and continued resistance.

The IPC... estimates that 677,000 people, 32%, are in ‘catastrophic’ conditions today and a further 41% in ‘emergency.’ It expects fully half of Gazans, more than 1 million people, to be in ‘catastrophe’ or ‘famine’ within weeks

The current level of starvation in Gaza now makes it comparable to the siege of Leningrad by Nazi Germany and Finland, which claimed at least a million and a half lives, and for similar reasons.

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    "Israel does not want palestineans in Gaza (or elsewhere)" Sources for this, please. – DeepSpace Feb 29 '24 at 15:58
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    @DeepSpace I would like to see a single source where Israel is going to see independent Gaza not under Israeli security control, or where Israel is going to integrate Gazans as its citizens. – alamar Mar 06 '24 at 11:44
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Has the state of Israel given any justification for any actions it has taken that affect Palestinians' access to food in Gaza? What rationale has the state of Israel given?

Israeli claims
Israel denies that it is limiting food supplies to Gaza:

Israel unequivocally determined that Gaza was not suffering a humanitarian crisis. According to officials, since the beginning of the war, Israel has allowed the entry of over 17,400 aid trucks to the Gaza Strip, including over 10,300 trucks carrying more than 218,000 tons of food.

A recent AIPAC report details the food deliveries and suggests that the food shortages are mainly due to the inefficiency in its distribution by the Humanitarian organizations - notably blaming the UN:

On March 3, the U.N. received 234 trucks in Gaza but only distributed 131 trucks of aid to civilians in the enclave.

The report also claims that that the amount of food supplies entering Gaza exceeds the pre-war levels:

During the war, more food trucks have entered Gaza than prior to the war — on average an increase of more than 50% per day. 184,5000 tons of food have entered Gaza since the start of the war. On March 3, 4,160 tons of food were delivered on 187 trucks.

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UN claims
Note that Israel blames the UN for the inefficient distribution of food - indeed, Israeli data (reflected in the AIPAC report) are in response to the UN claim that received some currency, notably due to Joseph Borrel, that Israel is blocking food deliveries. Indeed, the UN provides spectacular numbers... but only in terms of trucks:

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Per ReliefWeb:

The United Nations’ Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and Emergency Relief Coordinator stated that around 100 trucks of humanitarian supplies per day are needed to meet the needs of the more than two million residents of Gaza. Accordingly, reports that a US-brokered agreement was reached to allow only 20 trucks containing food, water and medical aid—but no fuel—to pass through Rafah crossing raise major concerns. Notably, before 7 October, on an ordinary day, around 500 trucks were entering Gaza—350 from Kerem Shalom and 150 from Rafah crossings.

The relation between trucks and the tons of food is not entirely clear. While the food crisis is tangible, there is a lot of supplies other than food was included in humanitarian aid delivered before the war:

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Other reports about Israel restricting food deliveries to Gaza have focused on how Israel does it rather than on the numbers. While these reports likely reflect real incidents, it is not clear whether they reflect the causes of the crisis: specifically the recent reports by Oxfam and by Amnesty International, reiterating the UN numbers.

Air drops and sea route
Israel also have coordinated the deliveries of food via air drops and via sea route (indeed, it is hard to imagine how this could have happened otherwise, given Israel's control over the airspace and sea borders of Gaza.)

Note that the President Biden's promise to built a port in Gaza was opposed by Qatar and Iran, with the latter subsequently changing its position, after being solicited by the US to participate in the project.

U.S. seeks exile of Hamas leaders by creation temporary port in Gaza: Expert
US port plan to step up aid delivery to Gaza criticised as ‘distraction’

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Deliveries via Rafah
Finally, there is an issue of deliveries through Egypt and Rafah crossing being controlled by the Sinai oligarchs/mafia:

The company also took over the shipping and transport of aid through the inspection processes on its arrival to the Palestinian side, according to both Red Crescent sources.

The company specialized in transporting aid shipments coming in from other countries and international organizations, especially shipments that arrive in Egypt via ports and airports outside of North Sinai. The reason, according to one of the Red Crescent sources, is the special status that the company’s trucks enjoy when they arrive at checkpoints and Suez Canal ferries, where they are quickly authorized to pass, whereas other trucks undergo strict inspection and may be grounded for days while waiting for special security clearance and authorization for passage.

This is why some countries, notably Qatar and the United Arab Emirates, have proceeded to deal with the Sons of Sinai directly, according to the source. Other countries, described by the source as “pitiable,” such as those of Latin America or the rest of the Gulf countries, have not sent delegates to accompany their shipments and are still reliant on the Red Crescent, which in turn deals with the Sons of Sinai.

[...] Beginning on December 29, data published by the Palestinian General Authority for Crossings and Borders in Gaza mentioned under the subheading “private sector” the entry of 30 to 60 trucks per day through the Rafah crossing out of the 150 trucks that were allowed into the strip daily through the Rafah and Karam Abu Salem crossings.

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    There's a bit of subtlety here that's not mentioned by COGAT (which AIPAC & AFP gets that data from). Before the war Gaza was self-sufficient in fruits and vegetables, but that's gone now. https://press.un.org/en/2024/sc15604.doc.htm#:~:text=Before%20the%20current%20conflict%2C%20Gaza's,North%20Gaza%20and%20Khan%20Younis. Alas none of the actors here are too interested in a totally honest accounting of combined aid+production... so I couldn't find that figure. – the gods from engineering Mar 26 '24 at 18:46
  • Anyhow, the AFP graph agrees in its latter portions with what OCHA says "the average number entering per day has fallen since Feb. 9 to 60 a day from more than 140 daily in January, according to figures from the U.N. office for humanitarian coordination, known as OCHA." There's your problem--as the saying goes. It's not clear where the excess (if any) went in the previous months but Gaza was probably not getting enough in Feb, thus all the rushes on aid convoys that did get in. – the gods from engineering Mar 26 '24 at 18:54
  • FWTW, Haaretz reported at the end of Oct that some of the food was useless as it couldn't be cooked due to lack of fuel. Exactly how much is unclear. – the gods from engineering Mar 26 '24 at 18:59
  • Mid Nov they did decide to allow some fuel in, but only for water & sewage plants, to prevent a cholera etc. outbreak https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-shift-israel-agrees-to-regularly-let-fuel-into-gaza-drawing-outrage-in-coalition/ The Q is whether food aid was adapted to these conditions. The US e.g. sent a crapton of flour [by ship], but if can't be cooked... At least the aircraft dropped MREs. OTOH the skyrocketing price of flour in Gaza suggests that they have some use for it. – the gods from engineering Mar 26 '24 at 19:17
  • If this is accurate, onions now cost 50x what they did before the war in Gaza, leafy vegetables 25x. Cooking oil price increased only by a factor of 3. Flour prices vary widely between south gaza and the north [factor of 20], but alas there's no pre-war comparison made there. There's probably no veggies in the north. One interesting Q is how much food entering is aid and how much is commercial, now compared to before war. Couldn't find that either. – the gods from engineering Mar 26 '24 at 19:33
  • Intestging that the IPC disagrees even with the COGAT numbers. In Dec they wrote "Of the 150-180 food trucks typically entering daily pre-escalation, only about 30 food trucks have entered the Gaza Strip on a daily basis since the end of the humanitarian pause on 30 November 2023." – the gods from engineering Mar 26 '24 at 20:11
  • And in their current report "From a pre-escalation average of 500 trucks a day of which 150 carrying food, in the period between 7 October 2023 to 24 February 2024, only 90 trucks per day, of which only 60 carrying food, entered the Gaza Strip." – the gods from engineering Mar 26 '24 at 20:11
  • Strangely enough, not the vibes one gets from reading Reuters coverage of aid logistics challenges. They are not at all singing the praises of Israeli efforts. Now, if a deliberately neutral news agency like Reuters is detailing problem caused by Israel, who do you think the rest of the world will be blaming as Gazans go hungry and worse? The US is still getting flak about Fallujah 20 years later and it was nowhere near as bad. Q is 27 days old, little has been done since. – Italian Philosophers 4 Monica Mar 27 '24 at 01:07
  • @ItalianPhilosophers4Monica Pay attention: there is rarely (if ever) direct defense of Israel in my post. I present the Israeli position alongside others, in a language as neutral as possible, and let people judge for themselves. I am not sure what irritates more: that Israel given a voice, or that one is forced to rethink generally accepted "facts". I am no more partial than someone who spends 500 of reputation to defend the noble Hamas fighters against Netanyahu's slender. – Roger V. Mar 27 '24 at 06:22