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There is a common narrative among progressive political and racial thinkers in the United States that all or almost all police departments are systematically racist in a way that does significant and serious harm to racial minorities, especially to black Americans. The mechanisms behind this seem obvious in areas where black citizens are a minority and unable to control police policy, however many cities in America have majority black or non-white populations and democratic elections for local government that directly oversees the police, controls hiring, and sets police policy. Many of these cities are seen by their citizens to have a serious problem with racial discrimination in policing, for example in 2015 the people of Baltimore protested police discrimination and brutality in their city after the death of Freddie Gray in police custody.

How do prominent progressive political thinkers on racial injustice explain why demographic majorities in these cities are unable to impact police policy in a way that leads to officers not discriminating against the non-white majority?

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Let's start with the understanding that in the USA — at least for the moment — political power is distributed, not centralized. This is a feature of our system of governance, not a bug. The Founders wanted political power distributed over many people, on many different levels, in many different forms, so that it would be difficult for any tyrant to amass power for his own use. It creates an unwieldy, contentious system, but that was seen as preferential to the dictatorial alternative.

This, however, is a double-edged sword. Any person who takes public office in the US, particularly at lower levels of governance, is confronted by a wide assortment of power structures which they have no direct control over. A newly-elected city mayor, for instance, has to contend with:

  • State and Federal elected officials — congresspeople, governors, state legislators, even the president — who might find it in their interests to meddle in city governance
  • Other local elected officials — city council members, police or fire chiefs, etc — who may have agendas different from the mayor's
  • Appointed officials — city administrators, judges, etc — who are difficult to remove and may not cooperate with the mayor's efforts
  • Civil service workers — police, firefighters, city employees, and the like — who are heavily unionized and largely immune to political pressure.
  • Independent, overlapping specialty districts — water and power districts, fire districts, etc — that are largely outside the political system but still carry significant influence and weight
  • Private interests — large corporations, prominent businesspeople, society figures, activists, lobbyists — who can create significant political headaches if they are not attended to.
  • Political opportunists looking for any chance to establish or increase their own power

A community has some control over who they elect to local office, but little-to-no influence over these other forces. Even if a predominately African-American community elects African-Americans to all the local community offices — and even if all of those elected officials are dedicated to improving the condition of life for their African-American constituents, which is by no means guaranteed — they can still be faced with stubborn resistance: police unions who defend police at the expense of citizens; entrenched judges who will not revise unjust sentencing standards; state and federal agencies which do more or less as they please; businesses that threaten to pull out unless certain conditions are met or maintained; city workers who refuse to change their practices... Control of political offices is ultimately a winning strategy, but that 'ultimately' may only come after a long, exhausting, bitter battle to force these entrenched institutions into compliance.

No one in political office wants to use the nuclear option: by which I mean the kind of thing that happened in Minneapolis, where the city council straight-out attempted to dissolve the civil service police force in order to reconstruct it from scratch. That kind of action is fraught with political dangers. But short of that, creating change can be extremely challenging.

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    For clarity, the city council passed an amendment to the city council to remove the requirement in the charter to have a police force. That was halted by the (unelected) charter commission, so it can't go on the November ballot. So while the city council has started the process, MPD is not dissolved - still patrols the street - and can't be unless the charter amendment passes in November 2021. – Azor Ahai -him- Sep 24 '20 at 17:30
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    I'm in Minneapolis. I think Minneapolis serves as a great example of exactly the points you are making. Despite widespread support to dissolve and rebuild the police department among city residents, and unanimous support by the city council, what you call the "nuclear option" just isn't powerful enough to overcome the power structures in place. To Azor's point, the council won't even have the ability to change anything until next November, meanwhile the police union has resisted all attempts at reform. Even with popular support, change will take a long time. – Seth R Sep 25 '20 at 17:33
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  • The police union is an easy target. 2) The judges can be overpowered by telling the local prosecuting attorney to explain jury nullification in every case, or otherwise by a large scale public information campaign.
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    So they explain it by... externalizing locus of control? Well, at least that's consistent. – Karl Knechtel May 08 '23 at 13:18
  • @KarlKnechtel: That's a remarkably disingenuous comment. Kudos... – Ted Wrigley May 08 '23 at 13:32
  • On the contrary, I think it sums up the argument quite nicely. No matter what institutions are majority-black, there will be some other majority-white institution around at whose feet progressives could lay the blame. After all, we're talking about the same political tendency that supposes that socialism only fails in South America because of US interference. That's the consistency I'm referring to. Right-wing American media has documented cases where the local government, police etc. are all black-controlled and these things still happen. And then you get the "internalized racism" argument... – Karl Knechtel May 08 '23 at 13:33
  • Not to mention: the question is about supposed anti-black police discrimination, and you're bringing up private interests, fire / water utility districts, etc. "they can still be faced with stubborn resistance: police unions who defend police at the expense of citizens; entrenched judges who will not revise unjust sentencing standards; state and federal agencies which do more or less as they please" - okay, and when the police forces are also majority black and the statistics still don't line up with what progressives think ought to happen? – Karl Knechtel May 08 '23 at 13:38
  • "businesses that threaten to pull out unless certain conditions are met or maintained" - supposing that this is an actual cause for "anti-black police discrimination" makes no sense to me at all. A naked assertion like this is not at all convincing. – Karl Knechtel May 08 '23 at 13:39
  • @KarlKnechtel: I call this disingenuous because it takes a systemic analysis and reduces it to mind-bogglingly simplistic psychologism. If you want to start from the premise that social structures and cultural system don't exist, and that progressives are just running around looking for people to blame, that's your lookout. But please don't expect me to respect you for it. – Ted Wrigley May 08 '23 at 13:41
  • You did not offer a systematic analysis. You laid blame at the feet of others and proposed at most vague speculation about how those others could actually cause the problem. I'm not expecting your respect; respect is earned. I am, however, criticizing your answer, and the ideology that underlies it, for a clear and apparent failure to assume responsibility where appropriate. "If you want to start from the premise that social structures and cultural system don't exist" I do not start from that premise, and it's utterly mind-boggling to me that you would suggest it. Just... how? – Karl Knechtel May 08 '23 at 13:44
  • @KarlKnechtel: I suggest that point because it is the only way I see to make sense of your perspective. It's a premise of your comments: maybe an unspoken one, maybe one you're not even aware of, but there nonetheless. And by the way, I don't have the ideology you're ascribing to me, but I don't see any value in having that discussion. you'll put me in a box of your own making whatever I say, and continue to be confused when I don't conform to your preconceptions. C'est la vie... – Ted Wrigley May 08 '23 at 14:19
  • I didn't ascribe any ideology to you, only to your answer. Although I have seen you consistently write answers based in that ideology. But no, nothing about my criticism requires "social structures and cultural systems" to not exist. I am simply saying that they cannot be hand-waved at in order to explain why a majority-black police force in a majority-black city with majority-black municipal government under a majority-black POTUS could still exhibit what progressives claim is anti-black discrimination. – Karl Knechtel May 08 '23 at 14:22
  • What I am trying to explain to you is that in your answer you do not actually attempt to establish any causal links between things that you seem to think are obviously causally linked, but which I think are obviously unrelated. Instead, you merely speculate about what other actors might be influencing the situation, without showing any evidence that they actually do so. – Karl Knechtel May 08 '23 at 14:23
  • "and continue to be confused when I don't conform to your preconceptions." So far, over the last few years that I have been baited off and on to look at politics.SE, you have conformed to my preconceptions quite neatly, in fact. – Karl Knechtel May 08 '23 at 14:25