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I'm currently enrolled in an Advanced Placement Literature class at my high school and yesterday we had a discussion on the ultimate goal of life. Our teacher asked us to interpret this quote to begin the discussion.

The unexamined life is not worth living. - Socrates

Most of us interpreted this quote to mean that a life without purpose has no meaning. The teacher then asked us what the ultimate goal of life is. No one answered for a while, and then I said maybe death. The class looked at me like I was suicidal. Then my teacher said that death is after life so that could not be a goal of the living. From different philosophical views, what is the ultimate goal of life?

Philip
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    The issue has been debated since some millenia .... Having said that, you can see e.g. The Meaning of Life and Existentialism, as well as Afterlife. – Mauro ALLEGRANZA Sep 15 '16 at 11:46
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    I receive my degree after my studies, therefore it cannot be their goal? –  Sep 15 '16 at 11:48
  • Meaning and purpose are mental constructs, necessarily, therefore I would propose that the purpose of life, as Socrates is eluding, is defined by merely seeking meaning in life and without doing so life has no meaning. – NationWidePants Sep 15 '16 at 13:23
  • Also note the implications of this: the conclusion you come to is irrelevant. – NationWidePants Sep 15 '16 at 13:26
  • you could've replied 'dying' !! socrates seems to be making a claim about value not meaning. these are different, in as much as we can value something greatly which we barely understand. the actual question, at the end, is too broad to answer except for a particular tradition of philosophy. would you like a reply from socrates? i'd guess something like duty, but i have no idea really –  Sep 15 '16 at 14:10
  • the "ultimate goal" for socrates is eudemonia. he claimed it is the ultimate goal of any behaviour. and that being unconcerned with others' does not help us achieve ours. and that it can be different for different people. and it is objective, so we can be wrong about what it is. https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=A9ZLAQAAQBAJ&pg=PA10&dq=goal+life+socrates&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi6rv_JyJHPAhXKCMAKHdjdDrAQ6AEIKDAC#v=onepage&q&f=false –  Sep 15 '16 at 14:43
  • Actually 'life' isn't an actor and therefore has no goal. Socrates simply implied that without us (read: concious beings) giving life worth ('unexamined'), it simply does not have any. – Philip Klöcking Sep 16 '16 at 09:06
  • @Philip Klöcking I think he's saying more than that, although I could be wrong. As Sartre observed we enjoy too much the burden of freedom and must seek meaning in the mundane. – NationWidePants Sep 17 '16 at 11:31
  • @PhilipKlöcking that's a strange thing to say. i think you've misunderstood either 'goal' or 'of' –  Sep 21 '16 at 05:17
  • i would argue that 'of' there expresses possession, that any activity can have a goal or aim –  Sep 21 '16 at 05:31
  • Does this answer your question? Various Philosopher's Perspective on the Meaning or Purpose of Life –  Feb 26 '23 at 21:05

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You may find someone who will tell you the answer is X, and another that tells you it is not at all X, but Y. who is right?

Someone may tell you that there is no absolute goal of life — that each of us needs to define our personal goal and give meaning to our life.

Someone else may tell you that is nonsense since evolution compels us to believe that reproduction is the goal of life. Should we believe him because he is a scientist? but what if he is a bad philosopher?

A philosopher may tell you that many philosophical questions have no definite single right answer, and their value is in thinking about them rather than finding a final answer.

Yet another philosopher might argue that is is a nonsensical question, the result of a psychological compulsion to abuse language and concepts like life and meaning in ways that they are not actually used in everyday language.

Someone else may tell you that the goal of life is realizing the existence of God. Should we listen to him because he is old and wise? because he seems to be an authority?

Someone else may say that there is no purpose to life.

Finally, someone may tell you that there does not seem to be an absolute answer to this question. Should we believe him because it is all indeed very confusing?

Who is right? all of them? neither one?

Nevertheless, it is a question that we can continuously think about and examine, just like Socrates preached examining life itself.

Your teacher may knows all this, but I think he was wrong in rejecting your proposal as he did. If someone believes in the afterlife, preparing for it seems like an arguably reasonable purpose in life. And even without an afterlife, coming to terms with the inevitability of our death and preparing for it psychologically may be a purpose of life.

Here is Woody Allen's funny take on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MsuqvLIttk

And here is another less gloomy version in which he essentially preaches life should just be lived and enjoyed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYZsApGC0BE

nir
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  • +1 for the Woody Allen reference since it lets me recall my favourite WA gag. It's from Take the Money and Run. They interview the WA character's cello teacher who declares of his character : "It was clear to me that he knew nothing about the cello as an instrument. He was blowing into it." I still cry with laughter when I think of that gag. It is such a perfect comic image. The one about his pocket watch is another killer. – nwr Sep 18 '16 at 05:08
  • I really like your answer. Basically, individuals define their own goals, and I'm okay with that. – Philip Sep 18 '16 at 21:10
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It is satisfaction regardless of being a believer or not, the satisfaction is what seems to be the ultimate goal. I am talking about the satisfaction that lasts forever. If you are a believer, then pleasing God will return you as a satisfaction by earning the heavens or His happiness over you. Once He is happy, you will be happy because either getting bounties in return or seeing someone whom you love so much. Everything you get is for satisfaction. Freedom, money, heavens, etc. are for our satisfaction both mentally, physically, spiritually. We want to feel complete.

Our current problems are due to our unsatisfied desires. No matter what we do, earn, or have does not satisfy our desires for a long time, and therefore, we look for a change, a change in our thinking, our environments, sometimes friends, etc.

What's beyond satisfaction? It is satisfaction again. You get more satisfied by being satisfied, and that way you attain a satisfaction that lasts forever.

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  • Your answer is not wrong, but it has the wrong format. Answers should be stated in an objective manner: don't just claim X, but write "In [philosophical school], someone would claim X, because ...". Could you edit your answer to make it fit? –  Sep 20 '16 at 19:55
  • Thanks but since when we try to be objective in Philosophy? – Tarik Sep 20 '16 at 19:56
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    See for a discussion Friends, we are not philosophers on meta. This is still an SE site, so it needs to be possible to select a 'best' answer. The OP asked for different philosophical views, so an answer without mentioning a specific view (only providing one), doesn't give the OP pointers for further research and is thus helpful only to a limited extent. –  Sep 20 '16 at 19:58
  • I see. Just wondering, what if this is my own philosophical view that I don't associate with anyone in the history. Don't get me wrong, I am very new here. – Tarik Sep 20 '16 at 19:59
  • I'm afraid this (this question, that is) is not the place to discuss it. If you're interested in the implications of changes/additions to an existing theory, or of a new theory, and you can ask a well-scoped question about that, that would be a good starting point for a new question. Also, [chat] is much less restricted of course, because we don't have a Q&A format there, so you might find sparring partners there. –  Sep 20 '16 at 20:02
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Ultimate goal of life is not to think about the goal of life. How this is possible? It is possible when life is being fully orgasmic experience for you every moment, then you won't have time to think about life's goal. Again, how is this possible, how can someone on the earth experience such? When you have gotten complete monopoly over your thought constructs. The less thoughts your have in your mind, the more blissful your are! How to have such complete monopoly over your thoughts (see, had you got complete monopoly over you thought constructs such question wouldn't have arisen,). Monopoly possible when either you have answers of all questions (ontological, epistemological, metaphysical etc) or have no questions! Then ripples in the mind ceases to exist. Now this can be happened by meditation! Or razor sharp philosophy & constant contemplation over the philosophy which is giving you all the answers.

My answer was based on Eastern philosophy mainly Buddhism or Advait Vedanta. I'm newbie in philosophy, pardon me if something goes wrong. Thanks

Mr. Sigma.
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