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A beginner's questions - regarding the major and minor scales. Consider the C major and C minor scales for example.

  1. What's the significance of major and minor scales, when both sounds almost same?
  2. Is it possible to differentiate major and minor scales just by ears?

Edit:

"significance" in question 1 means, is there any notable change in a song if I change it from C to Cm scale?

Edit 2 (23-Mar-2014):

After a search I came across this video showing the theoretical difference between Majors and Minors -

Dom
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    An interesting exercise might be to listen to Blues, where the scale changes from major to minor and in between often. – filzilla Mar 21 '14 at 21:40
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    If C major and C minor sound the same to you, you really aren't paying attention. – keshlam Mar 22 '14 at 00:09
  • Am I right to assume that by "beginner" you mean that you didn't even listen much to any kind of Western music before? Because that's the only way I can imagine how the difference would be not only obvious on an intellectual but an emotional level. – Christian Mar 22 '14 at 10:59
  • I have been able to distinguish major and minor scales instinctively as long as I can remember, but I know that some people somehow find this very difficult. (no, not only beginners. These people were singing western music daily.) @Christian – 11684 Mar 22 '14 at 11:58
  • @11684 That is truly astonishing. I've never heard of that. Will these people be able to get the mood of a piece? I mean at its most basic, minor is sad and major is happy. If someone doesn't hear that, how has music any meaning to them? – Christian Mar 22 '14 at 14:07
  • I am not sure, perhaps it was just the terminology that "scared them off", as I think they were quite musical. Anyway, it isn't as straightforward as above comments suggest. @Christian – 11684 Mar 22 '14 at 14:35
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    @David true. Indian classical music has 72 different scales, still keeping the same 12 semitones. Here's the list -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melakarta – Vishnu Haridas Mar 23 '14 at 07:47

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There are big differences between those two scales.

The C major scale consists of the following notes:

C D E F G A B

The C minor scale consists of the following notes:

C D Eb F G Ab Bb

3 of the 7 notes of the scale are different so it is not a small difference.

It sounds to me like you need to take ear training classes.

Ear training can make you able to differentiate many different aspects of music including what scale is being used, what type of chord is being played, and what the overall progression is of a piece of music.

If ear training classes are out of the question, I recommend trying the trial version of EarMaster. I've used it for ear training and I really liked it.

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I'm not sure what you mean, but I would say that depends of context.

The major scale and minor scale are modes of the diatonic scale - Ionian and Aeolian, respectively. In a sense they're exact the same scale, but starting from a different note. They sound exactly the same.

If you pick C major and its relative minor (A minor) and play them in a way you could not tell which note is the root, you couldn't tell the difference because they're the same scale.

But if you play both scales "as is", like in an exercise, then they're quite different scales, as Dom pointed out. They have a different "feel" and they relate to different chords.

Also, C and Cm are obviously different scales because they have different notes.

I'm not sure what you mean with significance in your first question, but that seems to be a good question. I believe Allan Holdsworth would say there's no significance at all (between a major and minor scale that are relative to each other) if you're talking about improvisation, for example.

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I'm not sure if I understand your question right - my answer would be no, for the following reason.

A major scale has intervals: whole-whole-whole-half-whole-whole-half

A minor* scale has intervals: whole-whole-half-whole-whole-whole-half

By simply starting on a note in the middle of the major scale, you can play the minor scale. The reason you can tell the difference in a song is because of context; for instance, many songs begin with a particular chord, deviate from it to increase tension, and return to it; that chord can be more easily recognized as minor or major.

*one type of minor scale

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    It's not about different modes in the same key, rather about parallel keys, since C major and C minor scales are mentioned as an example. Then it is a quite significant difference. – Meaningful Username Mar 22 '14 at 00:28