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I'm looking to identify the audav-sampuurNa raga that has the following aaroh / avaroh.

Hindustani notation:

SRGPnS', S'ndPmGRS
Aaroh / ascent: Sha.Daj, shuddh R^iShabh, shuddh ga.ndhaar, pa.ncham, komal nishaad, Sha.Daj
Avaroh / descent: Sha.Daj, komal nishaad, komal dhaivat, Pancham, shuddh madhyam, shuddh ga.ndhaar, shuddh R^iShabh, Sha.Daj

Carnatic notation:

SR2G3PN2S, SN2D1PM1G3R2S
Aaroh / ascent: Sa, chatushruti Ri, a.ntara Ga, shuddha ma, kaishikii Ni, Sa
Avaroh / descent: Sa, kaishikii Ni, shuddha Dha, Pa, shuddha ma, a.ntara Ga, chatushruti Ri, Sa

In the latter it would be a janya of the 26th mela, Charukeshi.

It's not a given that such a raga exists, in the sense of being named in classical theory or circulating in classical performance. I came across this scale because Manas Mukherjee has used it for a Hindi film song in 1979. So I was wondering whether he based the song on any particular raga or whether he just used an ad hoc set of notes.

Note: I'm not asking for a straightforward identification of the raga of this song. I mention the song just as background info in case someone is curious why I'd be asking about this particular scale, and wants to hear what it sounds like in the wild. But the question would remain even without the song.

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    Regarding the close vote, this is not a request to identify the raga but, rather whether the raga that is identified in the question exists. (I presume that "exists" in this context means "is to be found in classical theory" or perhaps "has been used in compositions other than the one mentioned in the question.") Once again, this close reason shows itself to be problematic because, as it is currently worded, it filters out from this music theory site interesting questions concerning music theory. – phoog Feb 27 '23 at 07:58
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    I don't have the rep to see close votes, but yeah, to anybody who knows Indian classical music, this is clearly not an "identify the raga of this piece" question. I've described the parameters of the raga in sufficient detail for someone more knowledgeable than me to identify it if it exists. Existence being predicated on its being identified in the theory and/or circulating in classical performance. – verbose Feb 27 '23 at 09:17
  • Perhaps rewording the question to ask something more like, "does this set of notes fit the parameters of a raga or is it just an arbitrary set of notes?" might help clarify the question. Also, I wonder if asking in both contexts of Hindustani and Carnatic is too broad. Are there more than 72 Carnatic ragas? If not then the answer to whether this fits a Carnatic raga seems simple. The Hindustani raga tradition is more problematic. In that case, it does seem like an identification question. – Todd Wilcox Feb 27 '23 at 15:17
  • Another aspect of this question is that it seems to verify that this is a raga would also be to name the raga, right? An answer that says "yes, this is a raga" wouldn't be satisfying, would it? Would a good answer require a name and reference for the raga? As in "yes, this raga is called raga name and it was used in song". If that is the type of answer you are looking for, then to me that is an identification question. – Todd Wilcox Feb 27 '23 at 15:23
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    @ToddWilcox yes, there are definitely more than 72 ragas in Carnatic music. Mistaking the 72 scales or melakartaas as exhausting the universe of all Carnatic ragas is a categorical error, and a fairly elementary one to make in the context of that music. A similar categorical error underlies your second comment. phoog's first comment explains why. I am not asking what the raga is called. I'm asking whether it exists. The former presupposes the latter. The latter is not an identification question. – verbose Feb 27 '23 at 23:15
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    And "does this fit the parameters of a raga" is not in fact a useful way to characterize the question when the question itself provides those very parameters. The question is whether in fact they have been previously identified as those of a given raga. So I'm at a loss to understand your objections to the question. What am I missing? Are we talking at cross-purposes? – verbose Feb 27 '23 at 23:28
  • Maybe you can explain what would constitute an answer to your question. If someone answered the question “yes, it exists”, would you be satisfied with that answer? If not, why not? – Todd Wilcox Feb 28 '23 at 01:11
  • Let us continue this discussion in chat. – verbose Feb 28 '23 at 05:48

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