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Let's say I buy a car in a private sale. I pay the seller, and we fill out the change of ownership form. Some time later (or perhaps the next day), the seller will post the form, and it will probably be another day before the authorities receive and process the form, and another day again before I receive the new one.

The question is, at what point does the car actually become mine? The reason I ask is that my insurance policy covers me to drive a car of the specified registration (not the one I just bought) and any other car not owned by me. So if I own the car the moment I hand over the money, I am suddenly not insured to drive it home! But if I own it when the government dept. process the form (or when the seller posts it), I probably have a day to get in touch with the insurance provider to change the coverage to the new car (e.g. if the sale is outside of business hours)

There is a change of ownership date on the form - could I allow myself this day by entering the following day in this space (or would this in itself be illegal?)

ohwilleke
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    Good question, +1. The way I have addressed this in the past is that you get a lift to the car with someone else in their car, then you drive their car home and they drive the new car. – User65535 Jul 21 '22 at 09:57
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    Why wouldn't ownership transfer once all the conditions of the contract have been fulfilled? Any later notification to the authorities is surely just a record-keeping and administrative exercise. –  Jul 21 '22 at 10:58
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    @Rick - you may be right, but "Why wouldn't" isn't the same as "It definitely does" :) – komodosp Jul 21 '22 at 11:51
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    Did you read your actual insurance policy? This contingency may be documented there. – jwh20 Jul 21 '22 at 13:10
  • In NZ you receive ownership certificate in mail, and that states the start date. – Greendrake Jul 21 '22 at 15:19
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    If your policy covers “any other car not owned by me” then why are you concerned about not being covered during the title transfer? Just call your insurance company and add it to the policy. They don’t need a title, because people who finance cars don’t have titles, the bank owns the car. This doesn’t prevent a policy from being issued. – Michael Hall Jul 21 '22 at 15:30
  • The relevant law is probably the one effective January 1, 1987 that caused Ireland changes its vehicle registration law in order to conform to E.U. Standards, after previously following U.K. law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_the_Republic_of_Ireland The Irish government website on point explained the procedure but isn't perfectly clear on the point in this question. https://www.gov.ie/en/service/98b32-change-of-vehicle-ownership/ But aJan 1, 1993 law changed the rules. https://www.chill.ie/blog/how-to-transfer-car-ownership-in-ireland/ – ohwilleke Jul 21 '22 at 15:55
  • The relevant form RF 105 isn't terribly clear either on the OP issue. https://www.motortax.ie/OMT/pdf/RF105_en.pdf The regulations and statute seems to be here https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1992/si/318/ and https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1992/act/9/enacted/en/html – ohwilleke Jul 21 '22 at 16:10
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    It's a moot point if you call your insurance company ahead of time and tell them you will be purchasing the car. They'll tell you how to ensure you are covered. – chepner Jul 21 '22 at 20:36
  • @chepner - yeah but generally you don't know whether you are going to buy the car until you meet the seller, have a test drive, negotiate price, etc. – komodosp Nov 01 '23 at 11:40

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It appears that title changes when both the seller and the buyer sign the reverse side of the vehicle registration certificate.

While a vehicle registration with the government is prima facie evidence that a vehicle is owned by the person indicated in the register of the transportation department, Section 140(2) of the Finance Act (1992) under which Ireland's current vehicle registration system was established effective January 1, 1993 (ignoring grandfathered cases) states that this is a rebuttable presumption of ownership only.

Nothing in the regulations issued pursuant to the Finance Act states otherwise, and there is language in one of the forms reproduced in a schedule to the regulations which seems to state that registration is something that one must do promptly upon a change in ownership, rather than change of ownership being something that only actually happens upon a change in registration.

This is a deviation from the common law that was subsequently codified in the law of sales for untitled tangible personal property, in which title transfers upon delivery of the goods, or if it is covered by a document such as a negotiable warehouse receipt, upon deliver of a negotiated (i.e. signed) warehouse receipt. Likewise, the historical rule for transfer of real property before ownership registration was established for it, was "signed, sealed, and delivered" meaning that a deed had to be signed by the seller, notarized, and delivered to the buyer or the buyer's agent, for title to be transferred. Generally speaking, when property is represented by an ownership certificate or is intangible, transfer of the certificate or relevant document, rather than physical possession, governs transfer of title (before real property records were formalized and bureaucratized, one had to deliver constructive possession of real property with "livery of seisen" by handing over a rock or dirt or twig from the real property to the buyer to signify delivery of possession of real property, the modern equivalent of which would have been to hand over keys to a building).

But, the Finance Act and the associated regulations and forms seem to make clear that you need to have both parties, rather than merely the seller (under this historical rule and the rule in most U.S. jurisdictions), sign the relevant form to transfer title.

The question is, at what point does the car actually become mine? The reason I ask is that my insurance policy covers me to drive a car of the specified registration (not the one I just bought) and any other car not owned by me. So if I own the car the moment I hand over the money, I am suddenly not insured to drive it home! But if I own it when the government dept. process the form (or when the seller posts it), I probably have a day to get in touch with the insurance provider to change the coverage to the new car (e.g. if the sale is outside of business hours)

My suspicion is that this issue is addressed not by the time that title transfers itself, but by a clause in a standard form car insurance contract in Ireland. There is probably a "tail" provision that extends the previous owner's insurance coverage until the registration is processed if it is processed within a reasonable time. But, I don't have the full text of an Irish car insurance policy contract at my disposal to review in order to confirm that fact.

You could probably read the terms of your current car insurance policy contract, if you have one, and determine the answer, as this is likely to be effectively uniform for all car insurance policies in Ireland.

Or, as @chepnor notes in the comments, "if you call your insurance company ahead of time and tell them you will be purchasing the car. They'll tell you how to ensure you are covered."

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    In UK, possession of the "green slip" that was separated from the registration document, filled out with your name and address, is considered to be proof of ownership for insurance purposes, before the revised certificate has been returned to the new owner. That is so that the vehicle can be insured and legally driven away at the point the transaction was made. – Weather Vane Jul 21 '22 at 17:34