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I know that one of the ways of getting a noun from a verb is by taking the い-stem (or the ます-stem as some call it) of the verb. However I came across this:

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Taken from here, where it says that there are some verbs that you can't do that with. I was wondering if there is some list of verbs that you can't make a noun out of their い-stem or are they too numerous to count (and therefore I will have to find them out through trial and error).

Thanks!

Uri Greenberg
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  • い-stem might not be the best term, since it would seem to only apply to verbs where the ます-stem ends with an い sound, but verbs like たべる (stem = たべ) or きめる (stem = きめ) would be excluded. – Leebo Jun 16 '23 at 06:21
  • I agree and that is why I included also the term ます-stem – Uri Greenberg Jun 16 '23 at 06:25
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    You would have to learn each word that can be used as a noun. It’s not much different from learners of English having to learn that “raise” can be used as a noun but for specific meanings, and “increase”, too, but with a different accent. See this about pitch accent. – aguijonazo Jun 16 '23 at 11:55
  • It is good to know I'm not missing some secret list or pattern. I guess I'll learn it just like how I learned English - lots of exposure and trial and error, Thanks! – Uri Greenberg Jun 16 '23 at 12:53

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