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Today is my first day back at the office after a two-week vacation, and so there's a lot of handshakes and well-wishing ('happy new year', 'best wishes') going on.

Which raised a fun discussion between me and my co-workers: Some of them completely forget or generally just stop wishing people well on January 2nd, which some considered cold/unfestive, others say they will just keep doing this for weeks after New Year's Day, which in turn was labeled annoying.

Most of them suggested there might be an (informal) rule about the day you should stop wishing people well, so:

What does etiquette say about how long after New Year's Day it's still appropriate to wish people well in the Netherlands?

Tinkeringbell
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    On a second thought, we might also turn this one into a 'global' question, like mentioned here for example... but then every answer should include some geographic/cultural context. If any people actually prefer that, feel free to let me know either here or in [chat]. – Tinkeringbell Jan 06 '20 at 13:59

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This answer is based upon the etiquette I've been taught and always heard since childhood. Its rule have been followed for decades by people I know/met, and I've seen it used in Western Europe countries (Belgium, France, Germany1). The Netherlands being so close to those countries, it might apply here too I believe2.

So: sending greetings/Christmas cards was first introduced by Sir Henry Cole. At that time, it was common thing that a letter would take up to a month to reach its recipient. So, nothing rude in being wished a Happy New Year on January 28th for instance. As far as I know, this custom has been kept: when you meet people for the first time since January 1st, and until January 31st, you can wish them a Happy new Year. After that, it seems really outdated, and a bit weird, as people would think you had forgotten about them. This can apply to foreigners too.

At the workplace, I've seen the same rule apply, with a small adjustment, because of "crossing holidays", people coming back to work on different days: after a week, no more Happy new Year, it's annoying and useless. Unless you're a big company, and you meet people once in a while in another office, where same standard one-month-rule applies.

Note: I've always been taught that, as a child, you are the one that should show "more" respect to elderly people (in the sense of "doing it first"). I've done that too at the workplace. Don't wait for your director to send his card/email/wishes, be proactive. And it'll lift the burden of answering too :)

I'm no more a child, but I'm still doing that. Write first when possible. Even with employees (almost mandatory here, because I include a gift card/box, so it has to be a couple of days before the day/vacation). Still, it's not out of the etiquette or weird.


1. when in England, we would do it the same way as in our countries (many different nationalities working in London), but I realize now that native British do it until December 25th and usually not later, it never crossed my mind maybe because they adapted their greetings to us, foreigners. 2. citation from Dutch people to confirm this would be great here.

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    That's either a generously long or ridiculously impossible window for British New Year's greetings, depending on whether it's December 25th of the new year or the old year. ;) Being British, I'm inclined to believe it's the latter - "the correct time to wish me greetings is never". – Hashim Aziz Jan 07 '20 at 01:26
  • before the new year of course :) and yes it's a very short span of time, we were rather stunned when we discovered that. But, as youngsters and foreigners, we couldn't care less at the time. Don't know if, decades later, it's still the same. But Brits being rather conservative when it comes to tradition... – OldPadawan Jan 07 '20 at 06:21
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  • As a native born Brit, I don't know where you get the idea that we don't say "Happy New Year" after 25th December! I would certainly do so a) at a New Year's Eve party b) the first time I met someone in the new year provided it was early in the new year. (I am not sure how early, but end of January feels late.)
  • – Martin Bonner supports Monica Jan 07 '20 at 17:40
  • What does sending greeting cards have to do with greeting people in person? 3. Henry Cole sent the first greeting card in 1843. Roland Hill introduced the universal postal system in 1840 (with a fixed rate). Now, the postal system got a lot better by the end of the Victorian era (delivery times measured in hours), but I don't believe a typical upper end to the delivery time of a month.
  • – Martin Bonner supports Monica Jan 07 '20 at 17:47
  • @Martin: I added this because of the historical background. When I searched for some backup (my culture/education doesn't mean it's right for others :)), I found that story. And it explained why the month span for greetings was linked to postal mail service of the 19th century and its lenght. Thought it could be useful... – OldPadawan Jan 07 '20 at 18:07
  • @OldPadawan That was a joke based on your December 25th date, which I assumed was a typo, because it seems unlikely to me that the cut-off point for New Year's greetings would be a whole week before the new year has actually begun. – Hashim Aziz Jan 07 '20 at 18:32
  • Oh thanks for pointing out! It's certainly unclear in my writing, but not a typo. When digging deeper, I found that British would probably have kept the tradition of not sending greetings cards after 12/25 (in order to reach the mailbox around 01/01). Of course, it's just for cards, not when meeting in person. When in London, we would do it for 2/3 weeks. Anyone can confirm? – OldPadawan Jan 07 '20 at 19:02