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Psalm 110:1 (NKJV)

The LORD said to my Lord, “Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.

Could this be interpreted to mean The LORD [YHWH, Yahweh (H3068), God the Father) is telling King David's Lord [Adon (H113), Adonay (H136), God the Son] to wait until He (Yahweh) kills the wicked of the earth and has their bodies taken to "winepress of the wrath of God" (Rev 14:19). And that these bodies will be the Son of Man's (Adonay) footstool when "He will sit on the throne of His glory" (Mt 25:31) to judge the surviving Armageddon sheep/goats?

Scripture considerations:

For where the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together. (Mt 24:28)

Observation: This event occurs before the Son of Man returns to earth (Mt 24:30, 31).

“where Lord?” ...”Wherever the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together.” (Lk 17:37)

Thus says the LORD of hosts: "... 19 Behold, a whirlwind of the LORD has gone forth in fury- A violent whirlwind! It will fall on the head of the wicked. 20In the latter days you will understand it perfectly." (Jer 23:16)

32Thus says the LORD of hosts: “Behold, disaster shall go forth From nation to nation, And a great whirlwind shall be raised up From the farthest parts of the earth. 33 “And at that day the slain of the LORD shall be from one end of the earth even to the other end of the earth. They shall not be lamented, or gathered, or buried; they shall be refuse on the ground. (Jer 25:32, 33)

18 Thus says the LORD: " … 23 Behold, the whirlwind of the LORD Goes forth with fury, a continuing whirlwind; it will fall violently on the head of the wicked. … 24In the latter days you will consider it.” (Jer 30:18, 23, 24)

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  • Up-voted +1. See also Hebrews 1:5 to 14. – Nigel J Feb 14 '23 at 18:36
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    Consider also a little bit different hierarchy: god father - ύψιστος - “highest” (lord) and two or more lords under him, maybe both/all also being his sons (because in the same psalm 110:3 one is said to be born before the other - Christos before Lucifer?) I leave it open to who the handle YHWH should be assigned to. – grammaplow Feb 15 '23 at 04:51
  • Voted to close because this question is not about the meaning of the text, it is about how to interpret the text in a specifically Christian context. – Abu Munir Ibn Ibrahim al Yahud Feb 15 '23 at 09:07
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    @AbuMunirIbnIbrahimalYahud. Why not answer the question instead of voting to close it. I think you know know who the "LORD" and my "lord" is in this question. I am interested about your understanding of the verse in question. – Alex Balilo Feb 19 '23 at 02:47
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    The aramaic translation interpret this verse as like: The LORD said to me (David) about my Lord (Saul), “Sit(wait) to My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool. – Kapandaria Feb 19 '23 at 18:31
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    In the OT, the term "The LORD" always refers to the tribal-national supreme deity of Israel and Judaism; i.e., YaHVeH-Jehovah (e.g., GEN 2:4; EXO 6:3 KJV). Also, the term "my Lord" becomes less confusing when the uppercase "L" is replaced with a lowercase "l" (cp. RSV at PSA 110:1). In this way, the term "my lord" can be correctly read and understood similar to the way the British address a person of titled nobility; e.g., a Duke or an Earl, or their king. – M. Wm. Ferguson Feb 19 '23 at 23:01
  • @hank. Connecting this verse with the NT, we find in Acts 2:32-36 it was Jesus who was crucified and made lord.. If the 2nd lord is adonay as you contend, how is it possible to crucify Adonay,? Who is the God that made Adonay lord? – Alex Balilo Feb 20 '23 at 04:25

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The OP asked: "Could this be interpreted to mean The LORD... is telling King David's Lord [... God the Son] to wait until He (Yahweh) kills the wicked of the earth..." (Rev 14:19)

Asked in this way (could), the answer can be nothing other than "Yes." The real question is should it be interpreted in the way suggested. To this, I would answer "no."

The argument hinges on the identity of the person called "my lord," who is addressed by the LORD. One need not be an anti-trinitarian to recognize that this is not God the son, but King David whose praises are being sung by the psalmist. The Catholic authorities who edited the online version of NABRE - strong Trinitarians themselves - interpret "The LORD says to my lord" as

A polite form of address of an inferior to a superior, cf. 1 Sm 25:25; 2 Sm 1:10. The court singer refers to the king.

In other words, God speaks to King David, whom the singer calls "my lord." It may be objected that David is the author of the psalm and it does not make sense that he would speak of himself as "my lord." However, Jewish commentators as well as modern critics point out that:

L’David literally means “to David” or concerning him, it does not simply mean “composed by David.”

As for the suggestion concerning the psalm's relation to the Book of Revelation, I think a simpler answer is better: the psalm refers to God inviting God's beloved David to sit at his right hand as God's co-regent, while God works to make their enemies an integral part of David's kingdom. Readers of Revelation may interpret the OP verse as related to Revelation but the text itself has a more practical meaning: King David enjoyed God's full support as he rose to power and subdued his enemies.

Readers are, of course, free to interpret the verse as they please. However, it requires a thick filter to interpret it as suggested in the OP. The more likely meaning is that it sings of God speaking to King David, whom the singer calls "my lord."

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  • Dan - Doesn't King David resurrect (does not ascend) with Daniel "at the end of days" (Dan 12:13)? I believe that the Lord of King David means the resurrected/ascended Messiah (Christ Jesus). – hank Feb 19 '23 at 15:41
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    I understand that many Christians understand it that way. But the author was a Jew. I prefer to read it as I think it was originally intended but its human author even though I think Jesus was indeed the messiah. – Dan Fefferman Feb 20 '23 at 18:01
  • Dan - Son of David, Messiah yes but do you think He was the Son of God? (Luke 22:70 Then they all said, "are You then the Son of God?" So He said to them, "You rightly say that I am." – hank Feb 21 '23 at 12:02
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The key to understanding this passage in Ps 110:1 is Heb 10:12, 13 which says:

But when this Priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, He sat down at the right hand of God. Since that time, He waits for His enemies to be made a footstool for His feet

Thus, the event prophesied in Ps 110:1 is still future, to reach final fulfilment as predicted by Rev 11:15 -

Then the seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and loud voices called out in heaven: “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ, and He will reign forever and ever.”

Thus, while Christ gained complete victory over sin by making full and complete atonement for sin at the cross, it will only be at the conclusion of the great final judgement that all (including the wicked) will acknowledge Jesus as Lord (Phil 2:9-11), and thus, make the wicked a footstool for His feet; ie, have complete victory over the wicked.

APPENDIX - Literal or symbolic?

There is quite a degree of metaphoric/symbolic language in this idea of the enemies of God/Christ being a "footstool" as observed in the following references:

  • Isa 66:1 - This is what the LORD says: “Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. Where is the house you will build for me? Where will my resting place be?
  • Acts 7:49 - “’Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. What kind of house will you build for me? says the Lord. Or where will my resting place be?
  • 1 Chron 28:2 - King David rose to his feet and said: “Listen to me, my fellow Israelites, my people. I had it in my heart to build a house as a place of rest for the ark of the covenant of the LORD, for the footstool of our God, and I made plans to build it.
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    This Psalm existed a long time before Hebrew 10. What did this Psalm mean originally, before the Christian era? Or are you suggesting that it in fact had no meaning at all until the Christian era? How does this post answer the OP questions? – Abu Munir Ibn Ibrahim al Yahud Feb 15 '23 at 14:50
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    @AbuMunirIbnIbrahimalYahud - I am effectively suggesting that it is a messianic psalm. – Dottard Feb 15 '23 at 20:28
  • Dottard - I take issue with your interpretation "thus, make the wicked a footstool for His feet." I am writing about dead bodies (of the wicked) spoken of by Jesus "For where the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together. (Mt 24:28) before He comes to earth as the Son of Man (Mt 24:30). – hank Feb 20 '23 at 16:15
  • @hank - I think that should be the subject of its own question. However, suffice to say here that we are talking about two different metaphors. – Dottard Feb 20 '23 at 21:03
  • Dottard - How about - What did Jesus mean when He said "For where the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together." (Mt 24:28)? – hank Feb 22 '23 at 13:31
  • @hank - That would be a great question on its own. It has been much debated from apostolic times with numerous opinions expressed. – Dottard Feb 22 '23 at 19:54
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The account in Mark 12:36 is a reference to Psalm 110:1. Examining Psalm 110:1 we find,

The OP keeps insisting that the 2nd lord in psalm 110:1 is Adonay but it is not. Here is the what bible hub shows it.

to my Lord: לַֽאדֹנִ֗י (la·ḏō·nî) Preposition-l | Noun - masculine singular construct | first person common singular Strong's 113: Sovereign, controller

My Lord.--Heb., adoni, an address of honour to those more noble than the speaker, or superior in rank: to a father, Genesis 31:35; to a brother, Numbers 12:11; a royal consort, 1Kings 1:17-18; to a prince, 1Kings 3:17; with the addition of the royal title, "my Lord, O king," 2Samuel 14:19

There is only one Adonay YHWH.

LORD” or “the LORD” in the OT represents (YHWH) God. This is not to be confused with the Greek word Kurios, which is used of Jesus and is a title of respect, honor and authority. The title “Lord” is used of many people in the Bible not just God and Jesus. God made Jesus both lord and Christ. Nobody makes God lord. Jesus as the Son of God, yes. But, God the Son, no. There is no God the son in the bible. –

The 1st LORD in Psalm 110:1 is Jehovah/YHWH. The second lord is translated from the hebrew word adoni. The word adoni is a title which never refers to God. It does not mean God the son. Peter narrated God's plan based on the truth of Psalm 110:1 in Acts 2:33-36 Being therefore by the right hand of God exalted and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he hath poured forth this, which ye see and hear. For David ascended not into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Till I make thine enemies the footstool of thy feet. Let all the house of Israel therefore know assuredly, that God hath made him both Lord and Christ, this Jesus whom ye crucified.

The God of Jesus made him both Lord and Christ.

Mark 12:36 ASV

David himself said in the Holy Spirit, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, Till I make thine enemies the footstool of thy feet

Psalm 110:1 ASV

A Psalm of David. Jehovah saith unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

This could not be interpreted to mean "The LORD [YHWH, Yahweh (H3068), God the Father) is telling King David's Lord [Adon (H113), Adhonay (H136), God the Son"because adoni is not the same as Adonay and that there is no God the Son" in the bible.

Peter already identified who the second lord of Psalm 110:1 is and it is Jesus whom he says was crucified. This further proves that the second lord of Psalm 110:1 is adoni because crucifying Adonay is not possible.

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  • Alex - My reference (The Complete WordStudy Old Testament KJV) has Lord as Adhon H113. As far as God the Son, I contend that Lord (Adhonay H136) of 110:5 as well as Is 7:14 use of Lord (Adhonay H136) means God the Son. – hank Feb 18 '23 at 16:16
  • @hank. The word Lord: לַֽאדֹנִ֗י (la·ḏō·nî) does not mean YHWH or God. It is never used as a title applied to YHWH. – Alex Balilo Feb 18 '23 at 16:59
  • Alex - I agree Lord does not mean YHWH. Levan wrote "In this psalm, they are two in the sense of Persons, but one in the sense of sharing one throne and authority." And I content that the second person is Adhonay (H136) – hank Feb 19 '23 at 14:31
  • @hank. You can contend that the second person is adonay, but that doesn't not change the fact that it is adoni, a human superior. Even Bible hub shows it to be adonii not adonhay. – Alex Balilo Feb 19 '23 at 23:11
  • Alex - Then what is your interpretation of Is 7:14 Therefore the Lord (Adhonay, H136) himself shall give you a sign (oth, H 236)? – hank Feb 20 '23 at 12:21
  • @hank. Please post that as a question. I will try to answer it when I can. – Alex Balilo Feb 20 '23 at 12:38
  • Alex - Does Isaiah 7:13a, ... "Hear now, O house of David! ... 14a ...The Lord Himself will give you a sign: ... " mean Adonay (H136, Lord) Himself will give the house of David a miracle (ot, H226) in the future (~680 yrs)? – hank Feb 22 '23 at 14:02
  • @hank. The Lord in Isaiah 7:14 is Adonay. This is the same first LORD in Psalm 110 :1. Where are you trying to lead me with your comments? Question like this one in your comment, you can find in bible hub? – Alex Balilo Feb 22 '23 at 14:39
  • Alex - As I read Pslam 110:1, The first LORD is Yahweh H3068 the second Lord is Adonay H136 (verse 5) the same as in Isaiah 7:14. – hank Feb 23 '23 at 15:31
  • @hank. You and I can say what we want to. But it really is that there is only 1 Adonay. Why don't you post it as a question so we don't have to go back and forth in the comments section. Either you or I is not being truthful. Here is how bible hub shows it. It is adoni not Adonay. to my Lord: לַֽאדֹנִ֗י (la·ḏō·nî) Preposition-l | Noun - masculine singular construct | first person common singular Strong's 113: Sovereign, controller. – Alex Balilo Feb 23 '23 at 15:52
  • Agreed. One last thought - The riddle posed by Jesus in the Matt 22:43-45; Mark 12:36-37; Luke 20:42-44, "If David then calls Him 'Lord,' how is He his son" which the Pharisees could not answer. They were not expecting Jesus as the Son of God (Luke 22:70) to be the "Lord". – hank Feb 23 '23 at 16:53
  • @hank. One last thought “LORD” or “the LORD” in the OT represents (YHWH) God. This is not to be confused with the Greek word Kurios, which is used of Jesus and is a title of respect, honor and authority. The title “Lord” is used of many people in the Bible not just God and Jesus. God made Jesus both lord and Christ. Nobody makes God lord. Jesus as the Son of God, yes. But, God the Son, no. There is no God the son in the bible. – Alex Balilo Feb 23 '23 at 17:11
  • Alex - I agree there is not "God the Son" in the bible. However, John 3:16 ... "He gave His only begotten Son" ... . Acts 13:33 ... "He has raised up Jesus. As it is also written in the second psalm: 'You are My Son, Today I have begotten You.' 34 And He raised him from the dead" ... . – hank Feb 25 '23 at 15:48
  • Alex - Regarding Kurios: 1 Th 4:16 For the Lord (Kurios, G2962) Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with a voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first." – hank Feb 26 '23 at 13:30
  • @hank. Jesus being called Lord does not make him God the Son. That is why there is no record of him being worshipped as God from Genesis to Revelation. If he was God from the beginning, he would have been the God that the prophets, apostles and disciples worship. – Alex Balilo Feb 26 '23 at 22:23
  • I agree. But the Lord who comes to earth to resurrect believers does, IMHO. Additional scripture that Jesus was"the Son of God" (aka "God the Son"): – hank Feb 27 '23 at 11:25
  • Alex - 1. Mk 14:6 ..."Are You the Christ, the Son of God?' 62 Jesus said "I AM." 2. Lk 22:67 " If You are the Christ , tell us." ... 69 Hereafter the Son of Man will sit on the right hand of the power of God." 70 Then they all said, "Are You the Son of God?" So He said to them , "You rightly say that I am." 3. Jn 1:1 ...the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 34 ... this is the "Son of God." 4. 8:38 ... "... before Abraham was, I AM." – hank Feb 27 '23 at 15:28
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    Oh boy!! Hank, bless him, is getting into a whole new aspect with that last comment. He either doesn't want to understand the truth of the matter, or is just honestly befuddled. Either way you can't just go on and on with this in the comments section, as you have already pointed out. Let me relieve your frustration, if I may call it that - the anonymous and therefore cowardly downvotes must wear on you too - with another upvote. – Olde English Feb 28 '23 at 19:39
  • Olde English - regarding "He either doesn't want to understand the truth of the matter, or is just honestly befuddled. " What is your Truth? ... And please explain exactly how I am "befuddled." (use scripture to support your argument) – hank Mar 01 '23 at 16:59
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    @hank - If you can't follow Alex then you are not going to be able to follow me, so I pass. – Olde English Mar 01 '23 at 18:29
  • @Hank - It just so happens that I have already written about Matt,24:28 and Luke 17:37, not to mention Matt, 24:40-41. You can see my answer here:- https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/13/meaning-of-where-there-is-a-dead-body-there-the-vultures-will-gather/81450#81450 – Olde English Mar 01 '23 at 18:44
  • Olde English - I see there was no mention of:
    For where the carcass is, there the eagles will be gathered together. (Mt 24:28)
    
    

    Observation: This event occurs before the Son of Man returns to earth (Mt 24:30, 31). ..... And what is your "truth of the matter?"

    – hank Mar 02 '23 at 15:16
  • @hank - Ok. First of all, I think we have a dual prophecy scenario here; 70 AD firstly and then the future Armageddon, at which point we will have the coming of the Son of Man. I also think both Matthew & Luke are talking about the same battlefield(s) (Jerusalem and then the World). One should not think "Rapture" here; "taken" = destroyed; "left" = saved. In Luke it's easier to fathom, being broader in scope. Where Lord?" is responded to immediately via Jesus with: "Where the body is ... vultures be gathered." Whereas when Matt' uses "corpse"(carcass), and Luke uses "body" ... tbc .. – Olde English Mar 02 '23 at 22:48
  • @hank - ... vultures will pick at both, but that's not the eagles thing, so that's probably why vultures is the correct translation. Now I don't want to start an endless back and forth here. I've given you what I believe, without going into too much detail, so let's leave it at this. There are too many comments here as it is and I don't want to have to go to "chat". – Olde English Mar 02 '23 at 22:59
  • Olde English - I agree, both Matthew and Luke are talking about Armageddon but also about the "winepress of the wrath of God" (Rev 14:19). Definition: suma,G4983 (II)(B) ... a dead body of a beast, meaning a carcass (Luke 17:37 [cf. Matt 24:28 where the word ptoma G(4430), corpse is used]). But please keep in mind, Matt 24:28 occurs before the Son of Man coming to earth (Matt 24:29, 30). – hank Mar 03 '23 at 20:11
  • Alex - Does the crowning of 2nd temple high priest Joshua (Zech 6:11-13) mean the future Davidic Messiah will be both priest and king? – hank Mar 05 '23 at 18:38
  • Zech 6:11-13 Take the silver and gold, make an elaborate crown, and set it on the head of Joshua the son of JehoZadak, the high priest. 12 Then speak to him, saying, 'Thus says the LORD of hosts, saying: "Behold, the Man whose name is the BRANCH! ... 13 ... And shall sit and rule on His throne; So He shall be a priest on His
  • throne, ... ."' 2. Psalm 110:4 The LORD has sworn And will not relent, "You are a priest forever According to the order of MelchiZedek."

    – hank Mar 05 '23 at 18:48