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If women have had to bear the consequences of changing gender equations, men have been through a confusing time too.

Why does this sentence use “have had”? Can I rewrite above sentence without have?

Please somebody, describe it in simple English.

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This statement contains multiple elements that work together to convey meaning. Let's break them down:

1. Somewhat Special Conditional

  • There's an elided “then” that would normally introduce the dependent clause.
  • The statement does not refer to a sequence of physical events with the latter dependent on the former.
    • Contrast: “If it rains, the ground will get wet.”
  • The statement does not refer to a necessity that must be met for something else to occur.
    • Contrast: “If we want to get there by 9pm, we will have to go faster.”
  • The statement suggests that the same perspective and logic by which we came to the first conclusion must also lead us to arrive at the second (as a consequence of the first).
    • Compare: “If someone is free to do good or bad, they should be held accountable for the bad.”
  • The statement does not follow the rules of a proof, but suggests we consider the clauses equivalent.

  • With some substitution, we get:

    If [permitted perception is valid], [then] [suggested perception must also be allowed].


2. Deference/Acknowledgement

  • The statement could, with little to no alteration of connotation, be rewritten:

    With all due respect to [acknowledged fact], we can also consider [suggested fact].

  • I see the intention as being to bring up an issue that is not as well known as a related issue, without taking anything away from the more widely known issue.


3. Use of Undefined/Uncommon Term “Gender Equations”

  • I was not able to find a good definition for this term in the movie review I assume you are quoting or anywhere else online.

  • Gender is a somewhat complicated concept on its own, but basically refers to the roles that people play, especially those typically thought of as masculine or feminine.

    • There are many issues thought to stem from this division and especially its (occasionally extreme) conflict with one's own identity and/or concept of the other gender.
  • Equations are by definition a zero-sum game, so presumably the author is suggesting that there is a fixed quantity of power that has been shifting across a binary.

  • It may help that the statement is essentially restated later in the article:

    Whenever there is talk of gender issues, it is kind of assumed that it will be about the problems women face in a still largely patriarchal world, but men have problems too.
    Source: mid-day.com review of With You Without You


4. Tense of Verb “To Have”

  • “. . . women have had to . . .”

  • Eliminating “have” would leave the verb as “had”, which would be the past perfect (or pluperfect) form, which is . . .

    . . . used to refer to an occurrence that was already in the past (completed) at a past time.
    Source: Wikipedia entry for “Pluperfect”

  • The author does not wish to convey that women bore “the consequences of changing gender equations” at some point in the past and no longer do.

  • The author employs the perfect progressive aspect to refer to. . .

    . . . the completed portion of a continuing action or [. . .] state:
    I have been working for eight hours.
    Source: Wikipedia entry for “Perfect Progressive”


5. Use of Phrase “Have to”

  • “. . . women have had to . . .”

  • have to
    Must; need to; to be required to. Indicates obligation.
    I just have to have that shirt; you have to wear a seat belt.
    Source: Wiktionary definition of “have to”


There's some other stuff going on in this statement too! Let me know what's still unclear.

Tyler James Young
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