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Perhaps Trinitarianism's most defining feature is the idea of God being '3 persons'. Typically this is described as '3 persons in 1 substance'. Yet some say God is a person, such as Is God a person?

Yet they clarify, saying

We mean that God possesses “personality”

So according to Trinitarians, strictly speaking is it only correct to say God has 'personality' or that God is a person, given that Trinitarians hold God is 3 persons?

Only True God
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    In an answer to a Muslim, I approached this Q as the Church Fathers's full accounting of the Biblical data as a "refinement of monotheism", conceiving God as a richer being than what Judaism was already given compared to other ancient nations. The essential enrichment is the *relations within the Godhead". Our language can be only an approximation, as per St. Anselm God is bigger than what we can imagine. Full answer needs to wait for a few days. We therefore cannot reduce God within a genus as your question implicity tries to do. – GratefulDisciple Feb 03 '22 at 20:44
  • @NigelJ Did you dv? – Only True God Feb 03 '22 at 21:34
  • @NigelJ You could have said 'yes' in fewer words! Sigh. You have a great start to an answer there. Why you think it's worth posting that comment, which suggests this is an important question that has an answer in the literature, and simultaneously dv'ing is beyond me. The purpose of SE is to ask questions and get answers. – Only True God Feb 03 '22 at 21:59
  • @NigelJ It appears you've deleted your original comment ... Ho hum ... – Only True God Feb 03 '22 at 21:59
  • @NigelJ You seemed to understand fairly well in your now deleted comment! ;) – Only True God Feb 03 '22 at 22:01
  • @NigelJ You don't understand why I'm so cheerful despite your consistent dv'ing? – Only True God Feb 03 '22 at 22:07
  • @NigelJ It's a mystery beyond comprehension, just like the Trinity. ;) But you seemed to comprehend just fine in your now deleted comment. – Only True God Feb 03 '22 at 22:08
  • Methinks the mods should give you both a timeout. – jaredad7 Feb 03 '22 at 22:19
  • @jaredad7 Unlike in the case of God, when dv'ing a question you are dv'ing a question by a person. IMO that person has every right to ask about the dv and try to figure out why it was dv'ed, in order to defend and (possibly) improve the question. But I love Nigel J, I just think he dv's too much (as in about 48% of the time). – Only True God Feb 03 '22 at 22:25
  • @NigelJ Correct! :P – Only True God Feb 03 '22 at 22:40
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    @NigelJ Is God a person? Well, He's not a human (nor did He take on a 'human nature', have a 'dual nature', or whatever that means), and He's not multiple 'persons', whatever Trinitarians mean exactly by that (they themselves don't quite know). But if we're going to adopt the 'person' language, it's better to say 1 person than 3 persons describes God. But I was speaking from the perspective of Trinitarianism, in which God is not a person (but who knows - it seems Trinitarians aren't exactly sure themselves - He's a person*, perhaps). – Only True God Feb 03 '22 at 22:45
  • @NigelJ 'Him', 'He', and 'Father' are words that don't do justice - they are evocative and useful, but should be thought of as more pointing towards God than capturing His being, IMHO. Put simply, God is the I AM THAT I AM. – Only True God Feb 03 '22 at 23:01
  • @NigelJ I'm comfortable with person language, as long as we recognize its limits. I of course use personal pronouns 'He' and 'Him'. God has given us those pronouns to describe Him, and so as far as our language goes, I'm happy with them. – Only True God Feb 03 '22 at 23:03
  • @NigelJ I don't primarily think of it as 'person to person', but again, I think that language can do. I think of it as 'God to person'. But yes, I think a personal relationship with God is the most important thing in existence. What do you mean by 'know Him as a person'? – Only True God Feb 03 '22 at 23:09
  • The system is, yet again, discouraging further comment, so I shall discontinue. I have deleted all my other comments. – Nigel J Feb 03 '22 at 23:12
  • @NigelJ The automated comment system is most certainly not a person. ;) – Only True God Feb 03 '22 at 23:14
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    Strictly speaking, how do you define "a person"? God is not human but is Spirit: https://www.gotquestions.org/God-is-spirit.html – Lesley Feb 04 '22 at 17:31
  • @Lesley Right, it seems the answer revolves around that. What does seem clear is if someone says 'yes', 'God is a person' would be in a different sense than the Father is a person, the Son is a person, and the Holy Spirit is a person. – Only True God Feb 04 '22 at 17:43
  • @Lesley If a Trinitarian says 'yes', it seems to follow we now have 4 persons. Each person of the Trinity, and then another person who is the persons + substance. – Only True God Feb 04 '22 at 17:44
  • Can't agree with that last comment. Also seems to me that this question is not unlike the "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?" trap. – Lesley Feb 04 '22 at 17:47
  • @Lesley Why don't you agree with the last comment? Why is it like saying "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?"? – Only True God Feb 04 '22 at 17:47
  • If you say you have, you are guilty. If you say you have not, you are still guilty. I have no interest in pursuing this because comments are not for extended discussion. I think you need to clarify what you mean by "person" as that applies to God. My final word is that there is no basis for thinking there is a fourth "person" within the One Being of God. – Lesley Feb 04 '22 at 17:54
  • @Lesley It sounds like you would say "there are incorrect assumptions in the question, such that there is no answer". That sounds like an interesting take to me - I would be interested in your answer (which of course doesn't have to take the assumption in the question, but can clarify where the question itself goes wrong)! – Only True God Feb 04 '22 at 17:59

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The answer on GotQuestions is not an accurate expression of Trinitarianism.

I would encourage the study of Athanasius on the subject as being more representative.

The term 'God' - Theos in Greek, applies to 'Deity' as such. Just as 'humanity' describes human nature but does not regard person.

I can describe humanity without relating that description to any individual person.

So I can speak of 'God' (Deity) and talk of his nature. But if I wish to speak of Person, I will relate my remarks to an individual - Father, Son or Holy Spirit.

This concept is expressed throughout Trinitarian documentation and is not a difficult concept to grasp, whether or not one believes it to be true.


Jesus said Pneuma ho Theos - 'Spirit the Deity' or 'God is (a) spirit', John 4:24. Thus the Person of God - in one divine nature, a perfect unity of spirit - is one God ; not three gods. Such is the perfection of love and unity in which Father and Son abide, in one Holy Spirit.

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    The answer on GotQuestions is not founded upon scripture - neither is this answer! – steveowen Feb 03 '22 at 22:39
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    So based on what you provide, the personal God of trinitarians is not founded on scripture, the word of God, but on the writings of men? – steveowen Feb 03 '22 at 22:48
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    Trinitarian doctrine is, indeed, expressed in the writings of men, after the close of scripture. The word 'trinitarian' does not occur in scripture. but it has been used in order to combat error and in order to define what is elsewhere stated in much more detail. The question was about 'Trinitarianism' : the question was not about scripture. It was not a 'truth' question. – Nigel J Feb 03 '22 at 22:50
  • Hmm, the matter is precisely about truth. If (apparently, according to you) God could not adequately define Himself in His own word through His own son, in all important matters truthfully, who can? Certainly not Athanasius! – steveowen Feb 03 '22 at 23:02
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    'Truth' questions are off-topic on this site. – Nigel J Feb 03 '22 at 23:06
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    So the answer is ... no? – Only True God Feb 04 '22 at 04:41
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Boethius is cited by Aquinas defining person as "an individual substance of a rational nature." ST I Q29 Given this definition, since Trinitarians hold that all three persons are one Divine Substance, and since the Divine Substance is a rational nature (it is a nature with intellect), it seems fitting that God be called "a person" insofar as we refer to His nature. Aquinas also seems to think that this is fitting, saying:

"Person" signifies what is most perfect in all nature—that is, a subsistent individual of a rational nature. Hence, since everything that is perfect must be attributed to God, forasmuch as His essence contains every perfection, this name "person" is fittingly applied to God; not, however, as it is applied to creatures, but in a more excellent way; as other names also, which, while giving them to creatures, we attribute to God; as we showed above when treating of the names of God [ibid.]

Aquinas also explains the evolution of the use of person, such that it now no longer signifies substance in God, but relation subsisting in substance (or subsisting in the divine nature), but that this is only made clear after clarifications to Trinitarian doctrine are made in light of heresies.

A difficulty arises concerning the meaning of this word "person" in God, from the fact that it is predicated plurally of the Three in contrast to the nature of the names belonging to the essence; nor does it in itself refer to another, as do the words which express relation.

Hence some have thought that this word "person" of itself expresses absolutely the divine essence; as this name "God" and this word "Wise"; but that to meet heretical attack, it was ordained by conciliar decree that it was to be taken in a relative sense, and especially in the plural, or with the addition of a distinguishing adjective; as when we say, "Three persons," or, "one is the person of the Father, another of the Son," etc. Used, however, in the singular, it may be either absolute or relative. But this does not seem to be a satisfactory explanation; for, if this word "person," by force of its own signification, expresses the divine essence only, it follows that forasmuch as we speak of "three persons," so far from the heretics being silenced, they had still more reason to argue. Seeing this, others maintained that this word "person" in God signifies both the essence and the relation. Some of these said that it signifies directly the essence, and relation indirectly, forasmuch as "person" means as it were "by itself one" [per se una]; and unity belongs to the essence. And what is "by itself" implies relation indirectly; for the Father is understood to exist "by Himself," as relatively distinct from the Son. Others, however, said, on the contrary, that it signifies relation directly; and essence indirectly; forasmuch as in the definition of "person" the term nature is mentioned indirectly; and these come nearer to the truth.

To determine the question, we must consider that something may be included in the meaning of a less common term, which is not included in the more common term; as "rational" is included in the meaning of "man," and not in the meaning of "animal." So that it is one thing to ask the meaning of the word animal, and another to ask its meaning when the animal in question is man. Also, it is one thing to ask the meaning of this word "person" in general; and another to ask the meaning of "person" as applied to God. For "person" in general signifies the individual substance of a rational figure. The individual in itself is undivided, but is distinct from others. Therefore "person" in any nature signifies what is distinct in that nature: thus in human nature it signifies this flesh, these bones, and this soul, which are the individuating principles of a man, and which, though not belonging to "person" in general, nevertheless do belong to the meaning of a particular human person.

Now distinction in God is only by relation of origin, as stated above (I:28:2 and I:28:3), while relation in God is not as an accident in a subject, but is the divine essence itself; and so it is subsistent, for the divine essence subsists. Therefore, as the Godhead is God so the divine paternity is God the Father, Who is a divine person. Therefore a divine person signifies a relation as subsisting. And this is to signify relation by way of substance, and such a relation is a hypostasis subsisting in the divine nature, although in truth that which subsists in the divine nature is the divine nature itself. Thus it is true to say that the name "person" signifies relation directly, and the essence indirectly; not, however, the relation as such, but as expressed by way of a hypostasis. So likewise it signifies directly the essence, and indirectly the relation, inasmuch as the essence is the same as the hypostasis: while in God the hypostasis is expressed as distinct by the relation: and thus relation, as such, enters into the notion of the person indirectly. Thus we can say that this signification of the word "person" was not clearly perceived before it was attacked by heretics. Hence, this word "person" was used just as any other absolute term. But afterwards it was applied to express relation, as it lent itself to that signification, so that this word "person" means relation not only by use and custom, according to the first opinion, but also by force of its own proper signification. [ibid.]

So, we can say that God is "a person" if what we mean to communicate is that He is a rational nature. Just as you and I (and little babies in the womb, too) are persons owing to our rational nature, so is God, though in a way different (as must be said of every comparison between nature and God) because His nature as necessary is wholly different from natures of contingent things. ST I Q2 A3 But, by person, we mean to signify what is distinct about God, and what is distinct in Him only is relation, as His substance is supremely simple. ST I Q3

There is a complicating factor from scripture, in that the Father gives us His name "I AM" Ex 3:14 and the Son, too gives us His name "I AM" John 18:4-8. How do the Father and the Son, who are distinct persons, share a Divine Name? Is I AM a person, or no? The answer is that the Divine Persons do share personhood, by which is signified their shared Divine Essence as an intellectual substance.

It requires noting that the Summa Theologiae, the Book of Exodus, and the Gospel of John are all written in languages containing neither definite nor indefinite articles, which, it seems to me, makes this particular fact easier to express. This question of is God a person cannot even exist in Latin, Greek, or Hebrew. We must find a way to work around this in modern English, which uses such articles and thus could be confusing. Let us therefore say that, when we speak of God as we are speaking of His nature, we call Him personal, a person insofar as His nature is a personal one. But, when we speak of the members of the Trinity, let us call them persons, signifying their relations within the Divine Essence as distinct from one another.

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