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I have been given many different opinions as to what having free will actually means. Some have said that it means only that we have a choice of whether or not to accept salvation, others have said it is the choice of whether to choose good or evil. Others tell me it is both. It seems that there are as many opinions as there are people.

So I tried to find out if there were some Scriptures which would answer that question, but so far there has not been any answer given me by the Holy Spirit.

So I have decided to ask if you can point me to some Scriptures which will clear this up.

All Scriptures quoted are from the King James translation.

These are the Scriptures I have already considered, and what I have discerned from them so far.

Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

At this point God has not put any restrictions on what to eat, and so no free will is indicated.

Genesis 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

Genesis 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

At this point; and I am unsure if this is the same as verse 1:29 or not; God has placed a restriction on what to eat and therefore man has a choice, however he does not at this juncture have the knowledge of good and evil. That sort of leads me to dismiss the parts about choosing salvation, and whether or not to choose good or evil.

My consternation comes from the fact that if man did not have free will at this time, why would God place the restriction in the first place?

Then I considered that free will was just another way of saying that man had the ability make choices. Choosing entails reasoning, and reasoning entails having knowledge. And not only does it require knowledge, but it requires that we have knowledge of more than one option.

So prior to verse 2:17 even though man may have possessed the ability to choose he did not have an option based on the fact that he had no knowledge that there were repercussions for eating from that one tree.

So; erroneously or not; I have concluded that free will is actually a process in which man is alternately infused with options and knowledge of consequences.

To this end I have come to believe that up until Jesus died on the cross and rose again from the dead, that man never had free will as far as salvation is concerned, and even now until all people are given the Gospel they do not have free will as far as salvation is concerned, and may be the reason God has not sent Jesus for the second coming, since Jesus said:

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Are there any Scriptures which I have overlooked that would alter my conclusions.

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  • @freemason I did consider that question before posting mine, however my question is more to the am I getting this wrong side, and not if God controls things, I have no doubt that he does control those things which are of Kingdom significance. – BYE Feb 04 '14 at 19:17
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    I don't think it's duplicate, I just think it's worth noting. – The Freemason Feb 04 '14 at 19:29
  • @ The Freemason It is worth noting and that question did clear up some vagaries in my concepts, and thank you for you interest and input. – BYE Feb 04 '14 at 19:33
  • Actually, the first verse you quote offers a choice to man: he can choose amongst any of the plants what he would like to eat - God doesn't restrict man to say Apples on Monday, Bananas on Tuesday etc. It may not be a choice that has the eternal consequences of Gen 2:17, but it is still a choice. The implication is wide ranging-freedom within the parameters that God sets (not explicit, but God does not grant the freedom to eat animals here). – bruised reed Jun 02 '14 at 18:55
  • @bruised reed You mention "choice" as if it = free choice. No choice occurs free of previous events which lead up to it. Cause and effect go back to a first cause which is the Beginning/Alpha of Rev21:6. – C. Stroud Aug 14 '19 at 22:25

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tl;dnr

The scriptures tell us we do not have free will. We cannot choose Christ unless God supernaturally causes us to desire him and so causes us to choose him. Further, we cannot make even the smallest day to day decisions differently from the way we do make them, right down the to the words I'm typing. "The lot is cast into the lap but its every decision is from the LORD." (Pv 16:33)

Some thoughts:

All men make choices based on their desires (or preferences). No man has authority over his desires. Therefore no man has authority over his choices.

No man is an island. No event happens in a vacuum. All things are connected. If God is sovereign over any outcome he must be sovereign over every outcome.

 

All text is from the ESV unless otherwise noted.

In the New Testament

Mark

Mk 13:20-27

20 And if the Lord had not cut short the days, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect, whom he chose, he shortened the days. 21 And then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'Look, there he is!' do not believe it. 22 For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform signs and wonders, to lead astray, if possible, the elect. 23 But be on guard; I have told you all things beforehand.

24 "But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, 25 and the stars will be falling from heaven, and the powers in the heavens will be shaken. 26 And then they will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then he will send out the angels and gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of heaven.


John

Jn 1:9-13

The true light, which gives light to everyone, was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world did not know him. 11 He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him. 12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, 13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

Jn 6:35-44 NIV

Then Jesus declared, "I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. 36 But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. 37 All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. 38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. 40 For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day."

41 At this the Jews there began to grumble about him because he said, "I am the bread that came down from heaven." 42 They said, "Is this not Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How can he now say, 'I came down from heaven'?"

43 "Stop grumbling among yourselves," Jesus answered. 44 "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day.

The Father gives the Son all those whom he saves. They all come and none are lost. None that are not given come.


Jn 6:63-65 NIV

"The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you—they are full of the Spirit and life. 64 Yet there are some of you who do not believe." For Jesus had known from the beginning which of them did not believe and who would betray him. 65 He went on to say, "This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled them."

Jn 12:37-40

37 Though he had done so many signs before them, they still did not believe in him, 38 so that the word spoken by the prophet Isaiah might be fulfilled
Lord, who has believed what he heard from us,
and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?

39 Therefore they could not believe. For again Isaiah said,

40 He has blinded their eyes
and hardened their heart,

lest they see with their eyes,
and understand with their heart, and turn,
and I would heal them.

How can they turn to God of their own free will if they cannot believe? If their eyes are blind, how will they see? If their hearts are hard, how will they desire Him?


Jn 15:16-19

"You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you. 17 These things I command you, so that you will love one another. 18 If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you. 19 If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you."

Jn 17:1-12

When Jesus had spoken these words, he lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, "Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son that the Son may glorify you, 2 since you have given him authority over all flesh, to give eternal life to all whom you have given him. 3 And this is eternal life, that they know you the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. 4 I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do. 5 And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.

6 "I have manifested your name to the people whom you gave me out of the world. Yours they were, and you gave them to me, and they have kept your word. 7 Now they know that everything that you have given me is from you. 8 For I have given them the words that you gave me, and they have received them and have come to know in truth that I came from you; and they have believed that you sent me. 9 I am praying for them. I am not praying for the world but for those whom you have given me, for they are yours. 10 All mine are yours, and yours are mine, and I am glorified in them. 11 And I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, keep them in your name, which you have given me, that they may be one, even as we are one. 12 While I was with them, I kept them in your name, which you have given me. I have guarded them, and not one of them has been lost except the son of destruction, that the Scripture might be fulfilled.

What can be said about this? Jesus says the Father has given him authority to give eternal life to those that the Father gave him out of the world. They belonged to the Father, the Father gave them to the Son, the Son gave them eternal life and not one was lost except the son of destruction as prophesied in Scripture. Where then is free will? Where is their power to turn to or from God of themselves? Perhaps it will be said that Jesus is here referring only to the apostles. Will we then say that the apostles did not have free will but everyone else does?


Acts

Ac 2:22-23 NASB

Men of Israel, listen to these words: Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know— 23 this Man, delivered over by the predetermined plan and foreknowledge of God, you nailed to a cross by the hands of godless men and put Him to death.

Ac 4:23-28

When they were released, they went to their friends and reported what the chief priests and the elders had said to them. 24 And when they heard it, they lifted their voices together to God and said, "Sovereign Lord, who made the heaven and the earth and the sea and everything in them, 25 who through the mouth of our father David, your servant, said by the Holy Spirit,

"'Why did the Gentiles rage,
and the peoples plot in vain?
26 The kings of the earth set themselves,
and the rulers were gathered together,
against the Lord and against his Anointed'—

27 for truly in this city there were gathered together against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, along with the Gentiles and the peoples of Israel, 28 to do whatever your hand and your plan had predestined to take place.


Ac 13:48

And when the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord, and as many as were appointed to eternal life believed.

None believed that were not appointed. All that were appointed believed. Where is free will?


Romans

Rm 8:5-8

For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. 6 For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace. 7 For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot. 8 Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

If we, born in the flesh, are hostile to God, cannot submit to God's law and cannot please God, how then can we welcome God, submit to Him and please Him by turning to Him of our own power?


Rm 8:28-30

And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. 29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. 30 And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he called he also justified, and those whom he justified he also glorified.

Rm 9:10-24

And not only so, but also when Rebekah had conceived children by one man, our forefather Isaac, 11 though they were not yet born and had done nothing either good or bad—in order that God's purpose of election might continue, not because of works but because of him who calls— 12 she was told, "The older will serve the younger." 13 As it is written, "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."

14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means! 15 For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." 16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth." 18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills.

19 You will say to me then, "Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?" 20 But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, "Why have you made me like this?" 21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? 22 What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory— 24 even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles?


Rm 10:14-21

How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching? 15 And how are they to preach unless they are sent? As it is written, "How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!" 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, "Lord, who has believed what he has heard from us?" 17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.

18 But I ask, have they not heard? Indeed they have, for

Their voice has gone out to all the earth,
and their words to the ends of the world.

19 But I ask, did Israel not understand? First Moses says,

I will make you jealous of those who are not a nation;
with a foolish nation I will make you angry.

20 Then Isaiah is so bold as to say,

I have been found by those who did not seek me;
I have shown myself to those who did not ask for me.

21 But of Israel he says, All day long I have held out my hands to a disobedient and contrary people.

So to call on God they must believe and to believe they must have faith and to have faith they must hear. But not all who hear understand. "Hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand."1 Those to whom he has shown himself did not ask for him and were not seeking him. "None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God." 2

    Matthew 13:13 Romans 3:11

Rm 11:1-8

I ask, then, has God rejected his people? By no means! For I myself am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, a member of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God has not rejected his people whom he foreknew. Do you not know what the Scripture says of Elijah, how he appeals to God against Israel? 3 "Lord, they have killed your prophets, they have demolished your altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my life." 4 But what is God's reply to him? "I have kept for myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal." 5 So too at the present time there is a remnant, chosen by grace. 6 But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; otherwise grace would no longer be grace.

7 What then? Israel failed to obtain what it was seeking. The elect obtained it, but the rest were hardened, 8 as it is written,

God gave them a spirit of stupor,
eyes that would not see
and ears that would not hear,
down to this very day.

If the gift is given to those who choose it for themselves then it isn't by grace at all but rather by the merit of the choice. If the gift is given to those who do not choose it then it is by grace that it is given.


Rm 11:17-32

But if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although a wild olive shoot, were grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing root of the olive tree, 18 do not be arrogant toward the branches. If you are, remember it is not you who support the root, but the root that supports you. 19 Then you will say, "Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in." 20 That is true. They were broken off because of their unbelief, but you stand fast through faith. So do not become proud, but fear. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. 22 Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God's kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise you too will be cut off. 23 And even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree.

25 Lest you be wise in your own sight, I do not want you to be unaware of this mystery, brothers: a partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written,

The Deliverer will come from Zion,
he will banish ungodliness from Jacob;
27 and this will be my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.

28 As regards the gospel, they are enemies for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers. 29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

What branch choses to be grafted in or cut out? The cultivator makes those decisions.


Rm 12:3

For by the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think with sober judgment, each according to the measure of faith that God has assigned.

Faith is required to believe and God assigns it.


Galatians

Gal 1:13-17

For you have heard of my former life in Judaism, how I persecuted the church of God violently and tried to destroy it. 14 And I was advancing in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my people, so extremely zealous was I for the traditions of my fathers. 15 But when he who had set me apart before I was born, and who called me by his grace, 16 was pleased to reveal his Son to me, in order that I might preach him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately consult with anyone; 17 nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me, but I went away into Arabia, and returned again to Damascus.

Paul, so far from seeking God, was bent on destroying God's ekklesia. He did not seek Him or ask for Him yet He came to him because He purposed before he was born to use him for His glory.


Ephesians

Eph 2:8-10

For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.

Philippians

Php 2:12-13

Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, 13 for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.

In the Old Testament

Proverbs

Pv 16:1

The plans of the heart belong to man,
  but the answer of the tongue is from the Lord.

Pv 16:4

The Lord has made everything for its purpose,
  even the wicked for the day of trouble.

Pv 16:9 NKJV

A man’s heart plans his way,
  But the Lord directs his steps.

Pv 16:33

The lot is cast into the lap,
  but its every decision is from the Lord.

Pv 22:2

The rich and the poor have this in common,
  The Lord is the maker of them all.

Psalm

Ps 31:14-15

But I trust in you, O Lord;
    I say, “You are my God.”
15 My times are in your hand;

Ps 37:23-24

The steps of a man are established by the Lord,
  when he delights in his way;
24 though he fall, he shall not be cast headlong,
  for the Lord upholds his hand.

Possible Rebuttals

Jn 5:39-40

You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, 40 yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life.

The KJV translation reads "40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life." When it says "ye will" or "ye will not" it is taken to imply that ye just as easily may have willed differently had ye so chosen. But isn't that begging the question? When it says "you will not come" it does not follow that this means you might have come had you so chosen. Rather, this is merely stating what your will is. Your will is to not come.
Spurgeon had this to say about it:

…no man by nature ever will come to Christ, for the text says, "Ye will not come to me, that ye might have life." So far from asserting that men of their own wills ever do such a thing, it boldly and flatly denies it, and says, "Ye WILL NOT come to me, that ye might have life."

Free Will–A Slave, REV C.H. Spurgeon

Rm 10:8-9

But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart" (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim); 9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

This is the best example that I know of to illustrate this issue. Here Paul says if you confess with your mouth and believe in your heart you will be saved. It goes on to say, in verse 13, "13 For 'everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.'" Here again, the assertion that this implies free will is begging the question. This in no way indicates that a person has the freedom to will or to not will confessing and believing. It simply says that those whose will it is to confess and believe will be saved regardless of how it came to be their will. The reason why this is such a good example is because of the larger context in which it's found. If we simply go on to read the rest of the chapter we see that Paul is clearly saying that believing and confessing is not something men can do.

How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching? 15 And how are they to preach unless they are sent? As it is written, How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news! 16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, Lord, who has believed what he has heard from us? 17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ. 18 But I ask, have they not heard? Indeed they have, for
Their voice has gone out to all the earth,
  and their words to the ends of the world.
19 But I ask, did Israel not understand? First Moses says,
I will make you jealous of those who are not a nation;
  with a foolish nation I will make you angry.
20 Then Isaiah is so bold as to say,
I have been found by those who did not seek me;
  I have shown myself to those who did not ask for me.
21 But of Israel he says, All day long I have held out my hands to a disobedient and contrary people.

Notice is says in verse 17 that hearing comes through the word of Christ. So it is an action of God that enables one to hear. Without this action, without the word of Christ, no one hears and understands.
Hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand."1
None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. 2

    Matthew 13:13 Romans 3:11

Further Examples

I think every verse taken to imply free will involves a similar misunderstanding. The following are examples of such verses.

  • Is 41:18
    Oh that you had paid attention to my commandments!
    Then your peace would have been like a river,
    and your righteousness like the waves of the sea;
  • Jn 7:17
    If anyone's will is to do God's will, he will know whether the teaching is from God or whether I am speaking on my own authority.
  • Rev 3:20
    Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me.
  • Dt 30:19-20
    I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse.
    Therefore choose life, that you and your offspring may live,
    20 loving the Lord your God, obeying his voice and holding fast to him, for he is your life and length of days,
    that you may dwell in the land that the Lord swore to your fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.
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  • BTW, welcome to Stack Exchange, we are glad you are here. When you have a chance, be sure to check out the site tour and read up on how this site is a little different than other sites around the web. This is not a comment on the quality of your answer, but rather a standard welcome message. – ThaddeusB Oct 04 '15 at 15:56
  • Thanks!

    Thinking that determinism means everything is pointless a common error. It simply means we are who we are and we can't change it. We can't be someone else. We can't make decisions differently from the way we make them. It may still be useful or interesting to know how and why they are made.

    The weather is a purely deterministic system that cannot be anything other than what it is but I may still want to know what's it like if my will is to go outside or how it came to be that way if my will is to predict it. :)

    – dev_willis Oct 04 '15 at 16:06
  • BTW, this question is closed because answers will supposedly be too "opinion-based" and not based on facts or references. I submit my answer above as proof that this is not true. – dev_willis Dec 15 '15 at 21:27
  • No, your answer is your interpretation of scriptures, not "facts." Site guidelines require questions to ask for a specific point of view to prevent bickering over interpretation (which was a common problem before this guideline was added). – ThaddeusB Dec 15 '15 at 22:03
  • Those are direct quotes, friend. Nowhere did I interpret anything for anyone. The text speaks for itself. – dev_willis Dec 16 '15 at 17:29
  • The quotes are, of course, direct, but it is your interpretation of those verse that makes you think they say there is no free will. Other people will read them differently, thus the question amounts to deciding who's reading is right and who's is wrong, making this a truth question and thus off-topic. Question here have to ask for only one point of view. This guideline was not arrived at arbitrarily, but rather over time it was found to be the only way to keep the site manageable without constant bickering. – ThaddeusB Dec 16 '15 at 19:41
  • When Jesus says "you did not choose me, but I chose you" what else could that mean? If someone decides to interpret that as meaning the opposite of what it says, is that an equally valid interpretation or is it just wrong? I'm aware that most people believe in free will but the text does not support that philosophy. Should we negate the text to appease the many that don't like it? Or ride the fence to avoid taking a stand? This is not a subjective question. It's empirically answerable. The fact that many people find the answer to be an affront to their pride should be irrelevant. – dev_willis Dec 17 '15 at 17:46
  • Comments aren't for debate - I am trying to get you to understand the guidelines, not dispute your conclusion. 2) We don't decide what a valid or invalid interpretation is. 3) By site guidelines, the question 100% is off-topic. You don't have to agree with the guidelines, but ignoring them isn't going to do you any good. 4) Jesus choosing someone in no way implies they have no free will about any matter. Your conclusion is not logically demanded from the verse. For example, one could be "chosen" and still have the free will be reject being chosen.
  • – ThaddeusB Dec 17 '15 at 18:20
  • The question was closed by the consensus of five experienced users (add my voice as a 6th if you like). Instead of telling us we are "wrong" about our guidelines, maybe you should make an effort to learn what our guidelines are. It is highly unlikely that a new user understands the guidelines better than a consensus of experienced users. – ThaddeusB Dec 17 '15 at 18:23
  • I'm not saying the guidelines are wrong, I'm saying this doesn't meet the criteria for them. The reason for closure specifically says answers will be "almost entirely based on opinions, rather than facts, references, or specific expertise." I offered a huge list of references and threw in a few facts as well. I did not offer my opinion. I do understand that this is a subject prone to opinionated bickering but that doesn't mean that it isn't possible to answer it empirically. Are all potentially controversial topics banned here? – dev_willis Dec 17 '15 at 21:44
  • Topics aren't banned. Questions that ask about the truth of a matter are. A question asking "what is the basis for believing one does not have free will?" is fine, as is one asking "what is the Catholic position on free will?" A questions asking "do we have free will" (which is what this question amounts to) is not. – ThaddeusB Dec 17 '15 at 21:55
  • The difference between "what is the basis for believing one does not have free will" and "do we have free will" is semantic. The spirit of the question is the same and they both have the same objective answer. I guess I'm just a little frustrated because I gave what I feel like is an excellent and very detailed answer only to have it dismissed out of hand. Maybe I just shouldn't participate here. – dev_willis Jan 04 '16 at 18:46
  • No it's not just semantics. It is a different question. A "what is the basis" question calls for evidence in favor of a specific position. "Is X true" allows for any position to be taken. This site allows the first type of question and not the second. You'll notice the question has been closed. You had the misfortune of answering a bad question w/o knowing it was a bad question, but that doesn't make it on-topic within site guidelines. I have not "rejected" your answer - I have attempted to help you understand the site guidelines. The content of your answer doesn't enter into it. – ThaddeusB Jan 04 '16 at 18:57
  • It's not your fault the question was off-topic, but that doesn't change the fact that it is. You can either accept we only allow specific types of questions, choose not to participate, or try to change the guidelines on meta. Arguing that your answer was good accomplishes nothing. The problem isn't with your answer - it is with the question. – ThaddeusB Jan 04 '16 at 19:00
  • "Is X true" implies a basis. It doesn't need to be explicitly asked. The questions "is gravity a force?" and "what is the basis for believing gravity is a force?" are asking the same thing. Perhaps the former would be more likely to be answered simply "yes" without explaining the basis for the answer though. – dev_willis Jan 04 '16 at 19:24
  • I see what you mean about the question being the problem though. I'll stop bothering you now. :) – dev_willis Jan 04 '16 at 19:25