Why will-power could not be used to regulate kaya , vedana and citta?

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I found the below from the book

Mindfulness with Breathing: A Manual for Serious Beginners

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mindfulness-Breathing-Manual-Serious-Beginners/dp/0861711114

The Thai word kuab-kum is used throughout these talks. It can be translated 'to regulate; to control or confine; to oversee, supervise, or superintend.' When one of these translations appear, all of the rest should be understood. In all cases, kuab-kum depends on sati and wisdom, never force or will-power.

Could someone explains why will-power could not be used to regulate kaya , vedana and citta?

score 3 · Accepted Answer · edited May 07 '15 at 11:50

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I have no knowledge of Thai but what I think is said here is:

Anatta nature is such that you cannot effect any of the aggregates by will power alone in an absolute way ever lasting way. You can stay in one posture but this is to a limited time. So you have limited influence but not absolute at a grosser level. At the level of arising and passing you have no control, whatsoever. When phenomena arises you cannot make it not pass away. You cannot stop phenomena arising.

But having said this you can have limited influence over all the aggregates by what you do at the present moment though influencing the fabrication process (Karmic and Citta Niyama resultants). E.g. by calming the breath you can calm the bodily fabrications. Certain volitions give certain results later. These can be viewed as regulating, i.e. you regulate the present moment. Awareness of the arising and passing away of: the aggregates / mind matter process / within the 4 foundations of mindfulness, equanimous to sensations devoid of clinging and craving, creating positive fabrication (like Metta), etc. are forms of regulation.

edited May 07 '15 at 11:50

answered May 06 '15 at 14:13

Suminda Sirinath S. Dharmasena

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"you can have limited influence over all the aggregates by what you do at the present moment" from whom/what this influence comes ? having this very little ability to regulate confuses me with the concept of "anatta" – nish1013 May 07 '15 at 09:35
At the present moment you can do skillful action which will condition the future as Karmic results. – Suminda Sirinath S. Dharmasena May 07 '15 at 11:24
You have no absolute control though. E.g. if you have no hair and you do a good deed wishing it to grow back will likely not materialise. At least not in the way and extent that you want it to be but there will be some karmic consequence. – Suminda Sirinath S. Dharmasena May 07 '15 at 11:27
Also strong will power backed by concentration can cause some conditions to materialise. But again not exactly the way you want it and will not last for ever. – Suminda Sirinath S. Dharmasena May 07 '15 at 11:32
Thank you . Even it is negligible in "power" , what ever the ability we have as "will-power" , to whom/what belongs to ? e.g. Nature ,Atma ? – nish1013 May 07 '15 at 11:36
It is not negligible. It is not absolute and everlasting. – Suminda Sirinath S. Dharmasena May 07 '15 at 11:39
Hi Suminda. I changed some grammar in your answer. Hope that is okay. – May 07 '15 at 11:51
Very much appreciated! – Suminda Sirinath S. Dharmasena May 07 '15 at 13:21
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Also see my answer: http://buddhism.stackexchange.com/a/8979/295 – Suminda Sirinath S. Dharmasena May 07 '15 at 14:09

Why will-power could not be used to regulate kaya , vedana and citta?

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