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This is an entry into the Fortnightly Topic Challenge #36

The following is an Only-Connect wall seen in the BBC TV series. You have to divide the 16 words into groups of 4 each satisfying a specific condition.

Now, before you complain, the 16 words aren't given. Instead, you have been given Cryptic Clues that clue the words.

Next, after getting the words, you find out the groups of 4 and the relations between the words in the respective groups. So, you should get 4 words/phrases as your answer(this is where the game normally stops).

However, I can't stop there. So, next, using those 4 words/phrases, you have to find out another 4 words/phrases(How, you ask? That's the real puzzle)

Your final job is to create another only-connect wall with those groups of 4 words/phrases as the connections.

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Here's my working so far, for the clues I've been able to figure out. I'll keep plugging away and update as I go.

Row 1:

THICKENS (Stiffens: anagram of KITCHENS)
REVIEW (analyse: English ditch=REEN, six=VI, gives REVIEN, then left (West) instead of up (North)). Thanks to Clarkey for the final part of this one
HANDED (Helped: Hotel=H, AND, education=ED)
BACK (to sponsor: the rear of something is the back of it)

Row 2:

LINE (railway track: Portuga-LINE-urope)
MASTER (leader: victory=MATE, small=S, real=R (currency))
STEVEN (Spielberg: anagram of EVENTS)
GRAVE (double straight). Solved by Persona

Row 3:

TAPES (piece=PAT, written left=TAP, is in Spanish=ES). Solved by Stiv
TEMPERED (initial letters + PER + bEDs). Solved by aPaulT
PLAN (design: quiet=P, unending street=LANe)
SCOTLAND (S + COT + LAND). Solved by aPaulT

Row 4

DOCK (COCK [pile of hay] with D replacing C). Solved by aPaulT
PARTY (celebrate: or participant gathering, double-straight)
TWIST (TWISTER [swindler], remove ER). Solved by Stiv
FLOW (current: no hesitation in river=FLOWer)

Part 2: Connections

EVEN: Flow, Tempered, Handed, Steven(s). Solved by aPaulT
YARD: Dock, Scotland, Back, Grave
PLOT: Thickens, Line, Plan, Twist
RAVE: Master, Party, Review, Tapes. Solved by aPaulT

Part 3: Using the Connections

Arrange the four 4-letter words into a square and read down the columns to reveal four new words. Solved by aPaulT.
PLOT
RAVE
EVEN
YARD

Part 4: A new wall

A new connecting wall

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    Yes I think your answer for 1,2 is correct. English ditch is a revene and left instead of up is W (west - left) instead of N (Notrth - up) – Clarkey252 Jun 20 '18 at 11:04
  • @Clarkey252 good shout - think you mean reen is a ditch though :-) Just a typo I assume heh – Joe Jun 20 '18 at 11:09
  • I added another connection idea to my answer – aPaulT Jun 20 '18 at 12:47
  • @aPaulT not sure on that one - I did wonder about it myself, but PLOT/PLAN seems a bit tenuous and connecting walls tend to not have more than one "can be preceded with X" group. That said, 1,1 is a tough word to find a group for if it isn't that – Joe Jun 20 '18 at 12:50
  • @Joe yeah, that was my thinking - nothing else seems to go with 1,1 – aPaulT Jun 20 '18 at 12:51
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    @aPaulT I think that connection is right, as I've just found another word-based one. At this point I'm assuming they're all wordy connections – Joe Jun 20 '18 at 13:04
  • Based on that I have an idea for how the next step of the puzzle works. (I've never done collaborative solving here before... should I keep adding bits to my answer or is there a better way?) – aPaulT Jun 20 '18 at 13:10
  • @aPaulT not really sure to be honest - it's been a while since I've been very active here :P What's your thinking? I can't help but notice the 3 we've found are four-letter words, and we'll have 4 of them – Joe Jun 20 '18 at 13:12
  • I've added a bit to my answer (it basically gives away the rest of the puzzle I guess though...) – aPaulT Jun 20 '18 at 13:19
  • @aPaulT good shout - I thought it might be along those lines but didn't have the fourth word yet. I've added 3 words to the new group, leaving one word missing from 3 groups. I'll keep working on them – Joe Jun 20 '18 at 13:23
  • Excellent work! Once you get the rest of the cryptic clues, I will accept this answer. – Sid Jun 20 '18 at 14:02
  • @Sid give Paul an upvote too, he did a not-insignificant chunk of it with me – Joe Jun 20 '18 at 14:09
  • I believe 2,4 is rot13(n zhygvcyr qrs sbe 'tenir', orybatf va gur tebhc sbe 'lneq') – Persona Jun 21 '18 at 04:30
  • @Persona I was trying to find the one which was that word, but didn't know the alternate meaning. Thanks :-) – Joe Jun 21 '18 at 07:38
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    @Joe Here's your final two missing clues: "ribbons' piece left is Spanish(5)" = rot13(gncrf, [fvapr cvrpr = cng (yvxr ohggre), jevgr vg yrsgjneqf v.r. 'gnc', gura nqq 'vf' va Fcnavfu (rf)] juvpu tbrf jvgu ENIR.) And "spin no hesitation in swindler(5)" = rot13(gjvfg [n fjvaqyre vf gjvfgre, erzbir gur urfvgngvba (re)], juvpu tbrf jvgu CYBG.) Now go claim your green tick! :-) – Stiv Jun 24 '19 at 17:36
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    @Stiv Well done! :) – Rubio Jun 30 '19 at 00:56
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A few answers to add to @Joe's list:

(1,3)

HANDED (H and Ed.)

(3,2)

TEMPERED (initial letters + PER + (b)ED(s)

(3,4)

SCOTLAND (S + COT + LAND)

(4,1)

DOCK (COCK [pile of hay] with D replacing C)

And a couple of possible ideas for connections:

EVEN: even-handed, even-tempered, even Steven(s), Even Flow [Pearl Jam song]

and more tenuously

UP: line up, thickens up, back up (but lots of words can be followed by up)

EDIT: another connection idea:

PLOT: "the plot THICKENS...", plotLINE, plot/PLAN (synonyms)

Part 3: new groups of 4 (with one inferred):

The connections are:

PLOT
RAVE*
EVEN
YARD

Reading down the columns gives the new words PREY/LAVA/OVER/TEND.

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  • I was editing in 1,3 just as you posted, good shout on the others ones. Still working on the remaining ones :) – Joe Jun 20 '18 at 10:50
  • The first connection is correct! Well done. The second is not however. – Sid Jun 20 '18 at 11:59
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Partial one

(1,1) is THICKENS
(2,3) is STEVEN
(1,4) is RARE
(2,1) is LINE
(4,2) is PARTY

and others to be followed.

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    I've no objection to partial answers in general, but I think this sort of tiny fraction answer should be discouraged. If you had solutions to all, or nearly all, of the clues, that would be a reasonable place to put a stake in the ground; but two of the 16? Not so much. – Gareth McCaughan Jun 20 '18 at 00:39
  • Just by way of context: When I wrote the above, MCN's answer had answers for exactly two of the clues. (Now it has answers for four of them, but I'm pretty certain one of them is wrong.) – Gareth McCaughan Jun 20 '18 at 02:08