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I have always loved the beauty of mathematics and physics. However I'm severely dyslexic and find it hard to keep numbers in my head, any more than 4 numbers at a time and they melt together and lose their meaning. (You know that feeling when you wake up after a lucid dream but as you think about it, it just evaporates? Well that's what it's like.) However, I'm pretty good at understanding concepts like Cantor Sets, mathematical logic, etc.

I have degrees in the philosophy of science and have studied epistemology, so I'm comfortable with abstract concepts BUT, I want to do some mathematics, I want to try algebra and trigonometry, to play with equations but I just don't know how to start.

Are there any books designed for the likes of me? Can someone who finds it hard to add two two-digit numbers together in his head, and even takes a second to decipher a 4-digit number on paper be taught to do advanced math? Is it like teaching a 1-legged man to run or a pig to fly?

I'm interested in hearing the opinions of people who love math, who can do math and maybe understand what a lot of my friends don't - namely why I at least want to try. Thanks.


Thanks for your comments,

Let me rephrase my original question if it helps.

  1. Being dyslexic. I have a very poor working memory (like a computer with very little ram if you like) the processing power required to recognise the shape of numbers written down as characters (i.e. 1, 5, 9, 3, 2, 8, etc) and then understand what they represent requires all my processing power. That means if I want to calculate two numbers in my head, 7+5 for example it takes a second but I can do it. However, if I want to add 14+63 my brain will spin and crash. Ive not been able to move past what most 7 year olds can do in math class.

  2. That said, in common with many dyslexics I’m very good at understanding complex and abstract theories and ideas (spatial reasoning). I have degrees (BA and MA form Durham) in subjects that can broadly be described as philosophy. I have been fascinated with subjects like mathematics and physics since I was a child and I have always read popular books on the subject. I can understand, for example, ‘set theory’ .. at a conceptual level, mathematic proof, .. at a conceptual level.

What you have written is encouraging, but math - even at a basic level is a foreign land to me. I would love to do some sort of higher math (no, I don’t really know what that means). but I would love to try to understand equations. But can I learn to do algebra or trigonometry and beyond when I can’t recite the 6x table or add 34 and 58 in my head? If I can, and I think you are saying that I might just be able to, where do I start?

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  • Can you read formulas and keep them in your head? Say, $\cos^2 \alpha + \sin^2 \alpha =1$. – user11235 Apr 19 '14 at 06:16
  • A related question I asked earlier is here: http://matheducators.stackexchange.com/questions/1635/dyscalculia-and-studying-mathematics-as-major – András Bátkai Apr 19 '14 at 06:31
  • @user11235 I'm not really sure until I try. I suppose I need to understand them first. – Project-404 Apr 19 '14 at 09:35
  • @András Bátkai Thanks for this. Originally I posted this question on the math forum before someone quickly pointed to your question here. Thanks I'll follow it with interest. – Project-404 Apr 19 '14 at 09:37
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    @ Matt F. Did you really need to edit my post so heavily? – Project-404 Apr 19 '14 at 09:41
  • @Project-404: you can always roll abck an edit if you do not like it. – András Bátkai Apr 19 '14 at 09:50
  • @Project-404: Your question is a great followup of mine. If studying advanced mathematics is possible, then there should be resourses supporting this. – András Bátkai Apr 19 '14 at 09:51
  • Thanks for the editing comment - I'm still trying to find my feet here. – Project-404 Apr 19 '14 at 09:59
  • @Project-404: we all do, this is a new site. See also the discussion here: http://meta.matheducators.stackexchange.com/questions/320/how-far-do-we-want-to-go-with-suggsted-edits – András Bátkai Apr 19 '14 at 11:47
  • Welcome to the site. It is quite common on Stack Exchange sites that everybody tries to improve content. In a vague sense the format is a mix between a collectively written resource like Wikipedia and individuals making contributions. But you are free to revert changes, if you feel the editing took something important away (yet generally speaking SE rather tries to minimize on general intros and endings). A technical point: it is well possibly Matt F. did not notice your question, since you left a space between the @ and the name, so he is not notified. I add @Matt so he will see it now. – quid Apr 19 '14 at 12:32
  • @quid. Thanks for the info quid. Its fine really. It just felt a little a love letter that had been marked with a red pen and sent back. I'll find my feet here before long. – Project-404 Apr 19 '14 at 12:41
  • You are welcome. In general, if you have some question on how the site works (technically or community wise) do not hesitate to ask on http://meta.matheducators.stackexchange.com/ – quid Apr 19 '14 at 12:45
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    You're welcome to roll back the edit. I will also comment on the meta-link that @AndrasBatkai linked to. But the site is for questions and answers rather than love letters, and I edited to bring out the questions more clearly. –  Apr 19 '14 at 12:54
  • I think you rather missed my point. But thanks none the less. – Project-404 Apr 19 '14 at 13:09
  • Thank you for providing the addtional information. An "answer" should however exclusively be used to answering the question. The information you give should rather have been included in the question post via editing it. I thus transformed your "answer" into an edit. For the future please use the respective button "edit" below the question when adding clarification. – quid Apr 20 '14 at 12:28
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    @quid. Many thanks. I was rather expecting that. I bear this in mind in future. – Project-404 Apr 20 '14 at 18:54
  • Related video on YouTube: Teaching Math Without Words, A Visual Approach to Learning Math .... – Tom Copeland Mar 15 '15 at 09:31

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I think the short answer to your question is that you are (like many people) confusing the arithmetic that you called 'mathematics' at school with the mathematics that mathematicians do. I very rarely add up numbers above 10, or write down ones with several digits. I think I possibly do own a calculator... somewhere.

I would suggest starting with some popular-maths books, and see how you get on. Since you've already done some philosopy, maybe try some logic. (I was going to suggest a book I liked, but I've completely forgotten what it was.)

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I'm not exactly sure what's being asked here, since you say you want to to learn how "to do advanced math," but also that you "want to try algebra and trigonometry, to play with equations." I can't tell exactly what you mean by do advanced math, but you say:

I'm pretty good at understanding concepts like Cantor Sets, mathematical logic, etc.

So: It seems to me like you have already "done [some] advanced math." Furthermore, you write:

I have degrees in the philosophy of science and have studied epistemology, so I'm comfortable with abstract concepts

So: Sure, if those degrees are legitimate, and your study of [some area of] epistemology was more than superficial, then I expect you could handle abstract mathematics as well.

That said: I get the sense that you are concerned about a combination of dyslexia and dyscalculia interfering with your learning. To this extent, there are some comments by Poincare and Hadamard about how neither of them was a particular capable "calculator" (in the sense of doing mental computations). The latter goes on to remark in his book "The Psychology of Invention in the Mathematical Field" (1945) that very few of the mathematicians who he knows think in words or even algebraic symbols.

More precisely, Hadamard writes that nearly all of the mathematicians who he knows

"avoid not only the use of mental words but also, just as I do, the mental use of algebraic or any other precise signs; also as in my case, they use vague images" (p. 84).

Finally, Hadamard discusses physical intuition and mental pictures of a kinetic sort as being relevant to mathematicians' ways of thinking.

Thus: If you can think abstractly but are tangled up by words and symbols, then you could still be in good mathematical company.


For completeness: Hadamard does write about a few notable exceptions.

He contrasts the use of image-based thinking with the following three mathematicians:

George D. Birkhoff, "who is accustomed to visualize algebraic symbols and to work with them mentally," Norbert Wiener, who "happens to think either with or without words," and Jesse Douglas, whose "research thought is in connection with words, but only with their rhythm, a kind of Morse language where only the numbers of syllables of some words appear" (p. 84).

Lastly, he mentions the rare exception of George Polya, whose thoughts rely in some large part on words and letters. Hadamard quotes Polya describing his own thinking:

"I believe… that the decisive idea which brings the solution of a problem is rather often connected with a well-turned word or sentence… The right word, the subtly appropriate word, helps us to recall the mathematical idea…" (p. 84).

Hadamard himself continues:

"Moreover, [Polya] finds that a proper notation – that is, a properly chosen letter to denote a mathematical quantity – can give him similar help; and some kind of puns, whether of good or poor quality, may be useful for that purpose" (p. 85).

(In case it is unclear: I highly recommend this book!)

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I look forward to the responses to this interesting question. Instead of answering directly, permit me to make an analogy to art.

Frank Stella is a renowned artist whose influence and compositional talent cannot be questioned. Nevertheless, I happen to know from reliable second-hand reports, that he cannot "draw" in the sense that, say, Leonardo, or even a contemporary cartoonist, can "draw." This is roughly equivalent to limited mental arithmetic abilities.

Just as the essence of art is the compositional inventiveness with shapes and colors that resonate with viewers—not drawing talent, similarly the essence of mathematics is patterns of interrelated, fertile concepts—not calculation abilities.


        FrankStellaWikipedia
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  • Wery nice answer, but it belongs maybe more to my earlier question, it is at least an answer to that one as well. – András Bátkai Apr 19 '14 at 06:33
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    I can't say I imagined I would see Frank Stella on MSE. I'm pleasantly surprised! –  Apr 19 '14 at 07:59
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    Thanks Joseph. I recognise the analogy completely. Dyslexia (Or dyscalculia) isn't an ability to understand its just difficulty connecting the internal with the external - or vice versa - i.e. trying to write with a broken pencil, trying to walk with a dead leg. – Project-404 Apr 19 '14 at 09:55
  • @AndrásBátkai: Sorry, I missed your earlier question. – Joseph O'Rourke Apr 19 '14 at 11:27